Yea no I was aware of all that, but thanks anyway. I have FOSE running perfectly fine, and was aware that LOOT was giving a hilariously faulty load order. Hence the attempt at manual load order creation based on the FWE description page. The game was stable and running just fine before having mods, no worries there. As far as I know, there should be no problem with any of these being installed over MO as many people have done so without issue. I have spent the better part of several days trying to get this to run with a lot of online research into fixes, proper load order, problems with LOOT, etc. This is not my first time modding a Bethesda game and it was not my first choice to come to the forums for help, nor was I looking for someone else to fix my problems without any effort on my part. What I was able to create here is the combined effort of many hours of my own time attempting and re-attempting to fix issues, with varying degrees of success. Now, the proper load order for FWE should follow the order of the game DLC masters, correct? Main Anchorage The Pitt Broken Steel Point Lookout Zeta As another question, is there a load order tool that works for Fallout 3? It is my understanding that BOSS is outdated enough that it misses plugins and throws them to the end of the order (i.e. out of order), and that LOOT is still not working correctly for Fallout 3 as evidenced by the issues I am seeing. Edit: also Fallout 3 is not installed in Program Files, it's on a separate drive steam library. I also know that this installation location should work, as I currently have a heavily modded New Vegas running happily in it.