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Thank you very much for pointing this out because that might have actually done it. I thought i had fixed it as I edited earlier but then next time I started skyrim it did it again, I spent the next couple of hours fighting it myself then I check back here notice this make the change and it seems to have fixed it again, Thank you and hopefully it stays fixed this time.

EDIT- I belive I have it fixed it seems that when I installed the unoffical patch for skyre that I am using that I either misread the section on mining or there is something wrong there. I reinstalled it without the mining fix and I could get past the bethesda logo when I started Skyrim Yay. I now just have to hope my saved game will work so I don't have to start a couple days of work over again. Hello I just recently updated some of my mods and now when I try to run skyrim I CTD before I can even hit new game/load. I think it may be a problem with the order my mods overwrite themselves using Mod Organizer. I am unable to really figure it out myself if someone could take a look and see if they can spot the possible problem I am having that would be great. (Read this from the bottom to top to get the actual order.) +XML Edits Only +VioLens - A Killmove Mod +Vampire Lord Collision Fix +Dead Body Collision Fix +Realistic Ragdolls and Force +SkyRe Compatibility and ReProccer Patches +ReProccer - Automated SkyRe patch generator +SKYRE Perks Tomes +Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch Update +T3nd0s Skyrim Redone +Skyrim -Community- Uncapper +Alternate Start - Live Another Life +Vampire Lords can Loot and Activate +Vampire Lord Retexture +Optional - No Cape +Grimoas Vampire Lord +WM and MT Compatibility version Loot +Werewolf Mastery v3 0 and Moonlight Tales v2 05 Compatibility version +Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul +Dark Maneuvers - Harkon shield Undead Lords and more +Royal Bloodline Compatibility Patch - ML +RoyalBloodline ThroneRoom +Royal Bloodline - Vampire Lord perk tree - abilities - and more +Better Vampires 6.6 +Weapons and Armor Fixes Remade +Immersive Armors +Immersive Weapons +Deadly Dragons +ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer +RaceMenu +BVFE - Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes +Better Beast Races v2 +XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement +Enhaced blood Dragonborn-Dawnguard Compatibility Patch +Enhanced Blood Textures +SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dragonborn +SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dawnguard +SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators +SHD FULL - Misc +SHD FULL - Landscape +SHD FULL - Towns +SHD FULL - Riften +Skyrim HD v1 5 FULL - Dungeons +Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch +Climates Of Tamriel - Dawnguard Patch +Climates Of Tamriel - Sounds +Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio +Static Mesh Improvement Mod +Skyrim Flora Overhaul +A Quality World Map +SkyUI +Unofficial High Resolution Patch *HighResTexturePack01 *HighResTexturePack02 *HighResTexturePack03 +Unofficial Dragonborn Patch *Dragonborn +Unofficial Hearthfire Patch *HearthFires +Unofficial Dawnguard Patch *Dawnguard +Unofficial Skyrim Patch It could of course be my plugin order although I doubt that a little but here it is just incase. (Ths one is read top to bottom unlike the Mod order for some reason.) Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp Dead Body Collision.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp DeadlyDragons.esp RaceMenu.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp SkyRe_Main.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp Immersive Weapons.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp SkyUI.esp SkyRe_Perk_Tomes.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp VLCollisionFix.esp VioLens.esp WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dragonborn.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp throneroom.esp Better Vampires ML.esp DarkManeuvers.esp SkyRe_Races.esp Vampirelordroyal.esp SkyRe_Survivalism.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.esp WerewolfMastery.esp Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp BVMLandRB_Formlist.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 Patch.esp ReProccer.esp Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 Patch.esp