NexusKnight

IDK what the problem is, but I can't apply any colour to my char's lips in 'showracemenu' no matter what shade I select. I don't even have nipple colour for some reason...it's just the same as skin tone. It's not really that important, it's just getting irritating because I don't know how to fix it. Which makes me wonder why I've lost this colouring in the first place? Never noticed this in any of my other play-throughs. Any suggestions how to rectify this would be appreciated.

Thanks saurus...for the continued support. But recently I believe I've found the source of my problem. In the course of re-installing everything again on my new system, I've encountered a new LOOT warning that is quite serious. It tells me that my patch for Realistic Room Rental Enhanced and Immersive Citizens is so badly made that it causes irreparable damage to game saves. Since the completion of my new game setup, I've found my old saves do not work. Therefore, I'm concluding that they are cooked! I have since found a suitable replacement mod for Perseid's Taverns and am testing my new install. So, I am going to start over with a better setup on a better machine, so it 'aint so bad. Thanks for all the help.....I think now we can call this thread closed (unless anyone else has anything to add) - NK

I'm half-way through installing onto my new system. Once I'm done that and tried my saves there, I'll look into your suggestion. Something I did find altered was my Skyrimprefs.ini. After I verified my game cache I had to start Launcher which renewed my prefs.ini. Corrected that with backup but no change. The enblocal.ini was altered too and fixed that but no saves load. I didn't know this but as soon as you change your resolution in the launcher it will renew your prefs.ini file, which gets changed a lot with various mod demands. Should always make a back up. Anyway, I'll keep you posted when I'm finished my new install...prolly tomo.

Thanks for the quick response saurus. You know...IDK...game's up to date but updating SKSE64 causes Skyrim to crash at start up. Right now, the only thing I can think of doing is rebuilding my game on a new SSD system I just bought. Installing everything the same and seeing if my saves load then. If not, I'm not entirely against starting a new game...but I am lvl 42...u know what I mean? The new setup is just a test right now and I don't see how it wouldn't work if I don't botch the install somehow. I'm updating everything too, which should work toward a more stable game...and fact is, I did find a lot of mistakes in my current install, like absence of patches, redundant mods and load order mistakes. Just hoping to get everything right this time in my new game and everything works. Then I'll be good to go on a brand new system. Only time will tell. My Current Load Order (Corrected): <sorry - can't get spoiler's to work> <spoiler> 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 SexLab.esm 8 8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 9 9 3DNPC.esp 10 a Night Eye Overhaul.esm 11 b Campfire.esm 12 c FISS.esp 13 d EFFCore.esm 14 e RaceCompatibility.esm 15 f SkyUI_SE.esp 16 10 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp 17 11 WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp 18 12 WARZONES - SSE - DLC - Assault Attack.esp 19 13 RaceMenu.esp 20 14 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 21 15 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 22 16 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 23 17 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 24 18 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 25 19 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 26 1a JKs Skyrim.esp 27 1b Cutting Room Floor.esp 28 1c RealisticRoomRental.esp 29 1d Blues Skyrim.esp 30 1e JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp 31 1f Solitude Expansion.esp 32 20 Helgen Reborn.esp 33 21 OBIS SE.esp 34 22 AI Overhaul.esp 35 23 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 36 24 BHTNF_Eli.esp 37 25 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 38 26 skyBirds_SSE.esp 39 27 BirdsOfSkyrim_SSE.esp 40 28 LKVM by Nimee - Part I_ SE.esp 41 29 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp254 FE 0 RRR - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp 42 2a EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 43 2b More idle markers.esp254 FE 1 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp 44 2c Combat Evolved.esp 45 2d ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 46 2e LKVM by Nimee - Part II_SE.esp 47 2f Artifacts.esp254 FE 2 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp254 FE 3 DBM_SolitudeExpansion_Patch.esp 48 30 TacticalValtheim.esp 49 31 Trees in Cities.esp254 FE 4 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp254 FE 5 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp254 FE 6 DBM_JKSkyrim_DawnOfSkyrimDC_Patch.esp 50 32 Frostfall.esp254 FE 7 Solitude Expansion Navmesh Fixes.esp 51 33 Skyshards.esp254 FE 8 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp 52 34 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 53 35 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE.esp254 FE 9 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 54 36 notice board.esp254 FE a JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp 55 37 Missives.esp254 FE b DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp254 FE c 3DNPC - AI Overhaul Patch.esp254 FE d BHUNP3BBB.esp 56 38 RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp 57 39 RaceMenuHH.esp254 FE e 3BBB.esp 58 3a Toccata as Elisif.esp 59 3b CBBE.esp 60 3c Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 61 3d Night Eye Overhaul.esp 62 3e NEO Radial Blur + Tint 7.esp 63 3f NEO Longer Lasting Potions.esp 64 40 NEO Longer Lasting Scrolls.esp 65 41 NEO Persistent Spell.esp254 FE f KSWigsSMP.esp254 FE 10 KSHairdosSMP.esp254 FE 11 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp 66 42 KS Hairdo's.esp 67 43 EffDistancefix.esp 68 44 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 69 45 TrueBrowsNingheimPatch.esp 70 46 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Zora.esp 71 47 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 72 48 PumpingIron.esp 73 49 AMatterOfTime.esp 74 4a EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 75 4b AHZmoreHUD.esp 76 4c BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 77 4d atkspdmod.esp 78 4e Kate.esp 79 4f EEO CRF patch.esp 80 50 TKAA.esp 81 51 Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp254 FE 12 Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp 82 52 EEO OBIS SE patch.esp 83 53 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 84 54 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 85 55 HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp254 FE 13 DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp 86 56 Dawn of Skyrim RND Patch.esp 87 57 LKVM_Frostfall.esp 88 58 LKVM_LT02.esp 89 59 Toccata.esp 90 5a DX Necromancer Robes.esp254 FE 14 DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE 15 ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp254 FE 16 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp 91 5b PAN_FollowerPack1.esp 92 5c OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp LazyTools.esp254 FE 17 DBM_TreesinCities_Patch.esp 93 5d TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 94 5e AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp 95 5f Black Widow Outfit.esp254 FE 18 DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp254 FE 19 DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp254 FE 1a DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 96 60 DeadlyDragons.esp 97 61 DeadlyCombat.esp 98 62 FNISSexyMove.esp254 FE 1b 3DNPCEFF.esp 99 63 EFFDialogue.esp254 FE 1c 3DNPCVO2.esp254 FE 1d 3DNPCVO1.esp100 64 LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp101 65 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp102 66 SleepTight.esp103 67 Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp104 68 Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp105 69 Un-leveld nightingaleblades 03.esp106 6a icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp107 6b RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp108 6c FNIS.esp109 6d The Ningheim.esp110 6e The Ningheim - TheEyesOfBeauty.esp111 6f RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp112 70 SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp113 71 Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp114 72 UIExtensions.esp115 73 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Amalee.esp116 74 Rebekah.esp117 75 Bijin AIO.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp254 FE 1e Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp254 FE 1f Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp Bijin Wives.esp254 FE 20 D13 Faster Get up Stand up Animations.esp118 76 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp119 77 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp254 FE 21 DeadlyCombatMCM.esp120 78 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE - RND Patch.esp254 FE 22 radiantBlocker.esp121 79 HavenBag.esp122 7a OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp123 7b RNAD_FF_Patch.esp124 7c RNAD_LotD_Patch.esp125 7d SkyrimSpeeds.esp126 7e SOSRaceMenu.esp127 7f XPMSE.esp128 80 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp254 FE 23 AetheriumSwordsnArmor_CCOR_Patch.esp254 FE 24 CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp254 FE 25 DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp129 81 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp130 82 CACO ethereal_elven_overhaul Patch.esp131 83 RNAD_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE 26 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp254 FE 27 DBM_CACO_Patch.esp254 FE 28 Bathing in Skyrim - CACO.esp254 FE 29 Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp254 FE 2a Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp132 84 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp254 FE 2b CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp254 FE 2c CCOR_Ordinator.esp133 85 DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp134 86 RealisticWaterTwo.esp254 FE 2d RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp254 FE 2e Bathing in SSE - RWT.esp254 FE 2f RNAD_RWT_Patch.esp254 FE 30 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp135 87 NAT.esp254 FE 31 NAT - Godrays.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp</spoiler>

I installed C5Kev's Sexy Nordic Armor CBBE SE for my follower but armor was invisible after crafting. Then I installed COCO's Lacebody to cover nudity and got both armor and lingerie ATST...very cool! But then I installed Nordic Carved Bikini CBBE HDT Conversion mod to see if I could make C5Kev's a replacer. Didn't go well...don't remember if I crashed or couldn't load. Anyway, I uninstalled all three mods and now my game saves won't load at all. Loot was telling me I was missing patches, so I d'led/installed the patches. SKSE was out of date and I updated that only to find my game wouldn't start at all! I reverted back to old one and game now starts up to save load then CTD. Now, I've done so many changes to my game that I don't know if I've made it better or worse - it still won't load a save. FI, after the loading option, there are loading screens 'til I hear the familiar hissing sound of my save being accessed, then crash! I've tried earlier saves and the same thing. Now, I don't have a clue what the problem is. Anyone else have a suggestion? BTW...I can start a new game but can't use any of my existing saves. WryeBash shows them as orange 'cause of recent uninstall...but all the masters are present. OTHER THINGS I'VE DONE: I fixed all LOOT's objections.....NO CHANGE I updated FNIS generator.....NO CHANGE I updated SKSE64.....CRASH ON START I checked integrity of game cache.....14 missing files.....RE-INSTALLED - NO CHANGE I re-cleaned DLC's & others w/ SSEEdit.....NO CHANGE I updated various important mods.....NO CHANGE Manually removed remnants of uninstalled C5Kev's & Nordic Armour files Vortex didn't remove.....NO CHANGE Gave up and came here

@anjenthedog...thank you I did read this one too. @Moksha8088: thank you, I'll have a look at the Youtube video on this...but the game is running fine now. I only have one reasonable explanation of this latest CTD...I read somewhere that if Delphine gets killed before getting to tSG Inn, then the game will crash upon entering. And I presumed that was the case for me when I had a wildlife mod installed. When I returned in a new game after I removed the wildlife, there was no crash. And thus I presume for my latest dilemma, I had arrived at the Inn too early for Delphine to be there and also CTD. This is somewhat explained by my slower approach to the Inn allowing her to arrive? IDK. All I know is that my game's working fine now except for 1 inexplicable CTD.

Well I don't know what to think or say...'cept Skyrim SE has run me through the gauntlet for over a month...it's been CTD City! (Guess that's what testing is all about.) But I'm now playing the game normally after finally gaining entrance to the Sleeping Giant Inn. I guess I should explain what I did as it's inexplicable to me... So first, I inspected my load order again and found a few weird things wrong with my Data folder. One of which was a zipped script folder that got misdirected somehow into my esp list and an ENB Cache folder, I've never seen before, that I didn't remove with ENB v0408. Plus, I also took off a non fatal, conflicting mod to see if that would help... it didn't - no change. Well, seeing my last quick save CTD'd when entering tSG, I decided to take a more relaxed approach this time. Instead of running to the Inn as quick as I could with Ralof to try to gain access, this time I went back to the previous save with Gurda and Ralof discussing our escape. I took my time seeing Lucian to get the Bleakfalls Barrow quest and then saw Alvor wasn't around and decided to sleep outside at around 7.30 pm 'till 7:30 the next morning. I then saw Alvor, did my business and at around 9:15am I was free to try the Sleeping Giant Inn one last time. And it was like Voila - magic! I got in without any trouble at all. I can't believe it, I don't understand. These are the same mods I was using to enter tSG before this last CTD (except for ENB which I removed)! And I carefully made sure everything was installed correctly without any conflicts. It's the same run through, yet because of some weird inexplainable glitch, (maybe timing?), it wouldn't let me continue. Anyway, now I'm not going to touch my game any more and just play the way it was intended. Really! I don't know how JimmyRJump and others can play forever with only one CTD! I've found too many giltches and problems with my game I'm sick of it, lol. But I am laughing now (gives a sigh of relief). My only conclusion is...DONT' PANIC. The game isn't designed to break, but when it does there's always some else that's been there too...and your fix will probably be much simpler than mine, lol. You're not alone with the great support here on the forums. Once again, I'm grateful you guys are here to help even if it's only to say, "glad you've got it working'. I don't come here often but I always leave happy. Wish me luck everyone...ciao.

Well, I'm sorry to disappoint everyone that was so kind to offer help in my hour of desperation previously, but I'm back again, lol. The furthest I've gone in game, so far, is to kill the dragon! Yipee!! Since my last post here, I've been playing relatively problem free and expanding my load order, porting some LE mods over and testing everything for stability. Loot has informed me of any errors or patches that needed attention and everything was good, why even XEdit shows no mod conflicts (as best I can tell). But along the way, I discovered a ton of trouble with this game and tell the truth I am about ready to give up. I'm still having CTD's and have discovered many fixes to all those past problems except this final one...I'm CTDing at the Sleeping Giant again! It all started after my final run with a stable load order and I decided to install some texture mods and ENBoost (for FO4, v0283-Boris says it works). I didn't have a problem until I tried the latest Enbseries SE v0408. I started to crash going into tSG again right after starting a new game. Naturally, I removed both mods but still can't get into the Inn at all. And I'm back where I started with a borked game, just like originally but without anything I can think of to blame it on. I really don't know what to do now. I've read so many posts about various CTD issues but nothing to help me out now. I really don't know what I've done wrong. My game was playing stable and then BOOM! I don't know whether to scream or shout right now...I thought I'd ironed out all the glitches. So I thought I'd try one last time to fix my game before re-installing Skyrim LE and going back to playing that. So, any more ideas anyone? Here's my NEW Load Order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 3DNPC.esp 7 7 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 8 8 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 9 9 Campfire.esm 10 a FISS.esp 11 b EFFCore.esm 12 c RaceCompatibility.esm 13 d WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp 14 e Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 15 f Cutting Room Floor.esp 16 10 SkyUI_SE.esp 17 11 SOSRaceMenu.esp 18 12 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 19 13 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 20 14 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 21 15 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 22 16 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp 23 17 RealisticRoomRental.esp 24 18 Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp 25 19 JKs Skyrim.esp 26 1a Blues Skyrim.esp 27 1b Toccata as Elisif.esp 28 1c TrueBrowsNingheimPatch.esp 29 1d JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp 30 1e Solitude Expansion.esp 31 1f Helgen Reborn.esp 32 20 OBIS SE.esp 254 FE 0 DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp 33 21 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Zora.esp 34 22 Tiwa44_Minidresses.esp 35 23 PumpingIron.esp 36 24 AMatterOfTime.esp 37 25 EMHearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp 38 26 AHZmoreHUD.esp 39 27 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 40 28 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 41 29 BikiniAscendVolume1.esp 42 2a atkspdmod.esp 43 2b Combat Evolved.esp 44 2c AI Overhaul.esp 45 2d TKAA.esp 46 2e Helgen Reborn TKAA Patch.esp 254 FE 1 Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp 47 2f ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 48 30 HearthfireMultiKid TKAA Patch.esp 49 31 EEO OBIS SE patch.esp 50 32 BHTNF_Eli.esp 51 33 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 52 34 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp 254 FE 2 DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp 53 35 ZIA_Complete Pack.esp 54 36 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 55 37 More idle markers.esp 56 38 Artifacts.esp 254 FE 3 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp 254 FE 4 DBM_SolitudeExpansion_Patch.esp 57 39 TacticalValtheim.esp 58 3a Trees in Cities.esp 254 FE 5 RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp 254 FE 6 Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 7 DBM_JKSkyrim_DawnOfSkyrimDC_Patch.esp 254 FE 8 Qw_WACCF_CRF Patch.esp 59 3b Frostfall.esp 254 FE 9 Solitude Expansion Navmesh Fixes.esp 60 3c Skyshards.esp 61 3d Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 62 3e Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE.esp 254 FE a DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 63 3f notice board.esp 64 40 Kate.esp 65 41 Missives.esp 254 FE b JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp 254 FE c DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp 254 FE d DBM_TreesinCities_Patch.esp 254 FE e DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE f ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE 10 DBM_ZimsImmersiveArtifacts_Patch.esp 66 42 TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp 67 43 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp 254 FE 11 DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp 254 FE 12 DBM_ZimsThaneWeapons_Patch.esp 254 FE 13 DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 68 44 DeadlyDragons.esp 69 45 DeadlyCombat.esp 70 46 FNISSexyMove.esp 254 FE 14 3DNPCEFF.esp 71 47 EFFDialogue.esp 254 FE 15 3DNPCVO2.esp 254 FE 16 3DNPCVO1.esp 72 48 LegacyoftheDragonborn TKAA Patch.esp 73 49 EEO CRF patch.esp 74 4a 3DNPC TKAA Patch.esp 75 4b SleepTight.esp 76 4c Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp 77 4d Cutting Room Floor TKAA Patch.esp 78 4e Un-leveld nightingaleblades 03.esp 79 4f icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp 80 50 RaceMenu.esp 81 51 XPMSE.esp 82 52 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 83 53 KS Hairdo's.esp 84 54 FNIS.esp 85 55 The Ningheim.esp 86 56 The Ningheim - TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 87 57 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 88 58 SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp 254 FE 17 3BBB.esp 89 59 CBBE.esp 90 5a RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 91 5b RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp 92 5c Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 93 5d UIExtensions.esp 94 5e 3DNPC_FrogCustom_Amalee.esp 95 5f Rebekah.esp 96 60 Bijin AIO.esp Bijin NPCs.esp Bijin Warmaidens.esp 254 FE 18 Qw_BijinAIO_AIOverhaul Patch.esp 254 FE 19 Qw_BijinAIO_CRF Patch.esp Bijin Wives.esp 254 FE 1a D13 Faster Get up Stand up Animations.esp 97 61 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp 98 62 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 254 FE 1b DeadlyCombatMCM.esp 99 63 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE - RND Patch.esp 254 FE 1c radiantBlocker.esp 100 64 HavenBag.esp 101 65 OBIS SE - NoticeBoard - Addon.esp 102 66 OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp 103 67 RNAD_FF_Patch.esp 104 68 RNAD_LotD_Patch.esp 105 69 Dawn of Skyrim RND Patch.esp 106 6a SkyrimSpeeds.esp 107 6b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remastered.esp 254 FE 1d DBM_CCOR_Patch.esp 254 FE 1e CCOR_Campfire_Patch.esp 108 6c Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 254 FE 1f Bathing in Skyrim - CACO.esp 109 6d RNAD_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 20 DBM_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 21 Qw_CACO_3DNPC Patch.esp 254 FE 22 CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp 110 6e CACO ethereal_elven_overhaul Patch.esp 254 FE 23 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul_CCOR_Patch.esp 111 6f Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 24 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 254 FE 25 CCOR_Ordinator.esp 112 70 DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp 113 71 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE 26 RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp 254 FE 27 Bathing in SSE - RWT.esp 254 FE 28 JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp 254 FE 29 RNAD_RWT_Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp

What happened to my last post...gone! Well, anyways to cut a long story short...after every test failed again and again I finally decided to try the vanilla tutorial and deactivate AS-LAL because it suspected a mod conflict somewhere and LAL seemed a good place to start. So, I also deactivated Helgan Reborn so as to not stop the cart traveling and had no trouble until the camera set to 3rd person after CharGen which will glitch the dragon attack if not corrected. Simple fix...use console and type "epc" enables player controls to reset to 1st person to correct this. Then it was off to find Ralof and into the keep when my camera glitched stopping me at the door dead. These are annoying game glitches that I'm used to and always quick save before entering any door! After recovering, there were no other problems escaping Helgan and then it was to Riverwood where I immediately went to try the Inn and gained access without a hitch. And so, it seems that AS-LAL was preventing me accessing the Inn for what ever reason. Now it's removed it's clear sailing and I only have a couple of mods apparently not working to fix and I'll be set to start my Skyrim adventures. I hope this helps some other newb like me as SSE seems a really buggy game. Thanks again for all the input fellas it's been an education. Until the next chapter...

Well, I started a new test game with AS-LAL and quickly exited to run straight to Riverwood and into the Sleeping Giant. It worked, I got in with no issue! I didn't have the mods on that I supposedly had the trouble with tho. Then I started another new game more confidently, but this time loaded all the mods I wanted and took care to make a Char I was happy with. I was able to get into the Sculpt feature which I couldn't do before and finished my char. Then I went into Helgen and did the tut and back to Riverwood as usual. I didn't go in the RT and went straight to the Inn. And I CTD'd again. The new mods I installed are: Birds & Flocks SSE, Drinking Fountains of SkyrimSE, Frostfall SE w Campfires, Realistic Needs & Diseases 2 SE, and patches for Real Water 2, RND-Frostfall, RND-FoS, RND-CACO & RND-LotD. And that's it... Loot only flagged one objection to a missing patch but it was installed (don't understand that). These are main stream mods that I would have thought would work no problem. Maybe it's LAL and I should do the vanilla start and see if that changes anything. Got nothing but time rn. Any other ideas while I check out LAL?

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Thanks for all the quick replies everyone I do appreciate your advice. I'm glad I've now got Fallrim Tools anjenthedog - seems useful, but for me there wasn't anything to clean... 0 items of the type you mentioned. So, that didn't work for me. And the problem remains...I still can't get into the Sleeping Giant without a CTD. And if I understand correctly, the inference made here is that I should only start a new SE game with all the mods that I want already installed? I can do that but I really didn't want to lose my CharGen features that I spent an hour perfecting, because outside of AS-LAL, I CTD using showracemenu! Haven't been able to resolve this...can't even get into RaceMenu 'sculpt' feature during the tut without a CTD!. Maybe it has to do with the ported Ningheim Race I'm using? IDK. I suppose I should try your recommendations and start a new char from memory (taking pics of the settings this time) and try the sequence of events again. And if SSE is that buggy when playing with mid game installs, perhaps it should work this time, no? (If you're right.) I'll give it a go and see what happens. And if I still can't get into the Inn, I'll be back with disappointing results then. But until then I'll remain optimistic. As far as the bashed patch and Vortex go... I didn't know it was even installed until you noticed it here Jimmy n andrews. It's empty and I will remove it now as it's unnecessary. And Vortex...I had to try it out and found it's conflict resolution useful but it still has problems with leaving some elements behind after uninstalling. But because NMM has it's own problems I'll probably keep using Vortex until it becomes less useful or more bugged. In fact, Vortex was useful in keeping my Skyrim LE and SE games separate in the first place. I use both NMM & Vortex for each of my installs. Then I found that SSE corrupted my LE install. This is apparently common if they are both installed at the same time! And so I had to uninstall Skyrim LE to see if that would stop my Racemeny CTD problems. And it didn't. CONCLUSIONI thought getting into the SSE world would be easier and more rewarding than LE...I'm quickly beginning to realize the opposite now. If it wasn't for forums like this one and people like you ajenthedog, Jimmy & andrews the game industry would be doomed IMO! Anyways, my deepest thanks again for the advice and wish me luck for now, I'm going to try this again.

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