Phantom9621

Ah, after some thought. That is what I figured you were talking about. already did that. other then some few (may be dup items/codes) and the thing alike. Noting critical.

I'm not familiar with Xedit. Any chance you could point me to the right program and some more detailed instructions?

I have thought of doing that, wouldn't be the first time. Mainly I was asking so I could avoid doing that. The main problem is that it happens on its own. Could happen in 3 seconds or 3 hours. I can never tell. But like I said, It sometimes happens so bad I need to restart my computer.

Yes, Yes I did. As stated above.

So, I am having a problem finding the conflicting mod in this load order. I know a few over ride each other, like the grass overhauls. But that shouldn't be causing a hard Crash. It can crash so bad I need to restart my PC. (only happens with skyrim SE and noting else. (already cleaned the master files and sorted with loot) Any help would be much appreciated (ps. sorry if this is posted and the wrong spot or something, dont use the forums much) Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1Hearthfires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1Campfire.esm=1SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1Potions.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Extended.esp=1MagicalCollegeofWinterhold.esp=1Undeath.esp=1OBIS SE.esp=1Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1dD-Medium Script Range.esp=1icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1VioLens SE.esp=1VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp=1Footprints.esp=1beltfastenedquivers.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1Aurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp=1DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp=1EbonyHelmetAlternatives.esp=1True Eyes SE.esp=1DTNecromancerCamp.esp=1DawnguardDarkAlly.esp=1WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1WICO - Immersive People.esp=1Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods.esp=1TrueStormsSE.esp=1Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp=1SturdyDragons.esp=1Realistic AI Detection SE Lite.esp=1High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp=1High Level Enemies - Increased Max Resists.esp=1High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp=1Better Harvesting.esp=1DarkNemesisSse.esp=1EternalShineArmorAndWeaponsSse.esp=1Tribunal Robes for SSE.esp=1NetherMage.esp=1MaskofBlades.esp=1MaleClericArmorHeavy.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1Grass Clipping Fix.esp=1Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1123Shout_1.0.esp=1MaleClericArmorCloth.esp=1Blaze Of Eventide.esp=1DBRewards.esp=1High Level Enemies.esp=1LrsamwaysExpandedSkyrimWeaponry.esp=1High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Multiple Enchantments - Ordinator Patch.esp=1Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp=1000WHITERUNhiddenpassageandvault1.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Complete Pack.esp=1Immersive Wenches.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1Immersive Followers.esp=1Unbelievable Grass Two.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1Glowtastic.esp=1notice board.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1BTSAFeatheredFriend.esp=1Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=1Dremora Divided Follower.esp=1garm_black.esp=0garm_ebony.esp=1Ish's Souls to Perks.esp=1Daedric Reaper Armor.esp=1Circlets and Masks with all Robes and Hoods - Winter Is Coming.esp=1Capes&Cloaks.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp=1Ars Metallica.esp=1WICO - Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp=1Volkihar Knight.esp=1Volkihar Knight - Sacrosanct Patch.esp=1MaleClericArmorLight.esp=1Heart Breaker SE.esp=1Heart Breaker SE - Book Menu.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1CFTO.esp=1CFTO-Lanterns.esp=1CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

So I tried a full clean. i uninstalled all mods, reinstalled the game (outside of program file) and only installed SKSE and Live another life. It still crashed. It may not be your .esps. Have you installed a skeleton mod of any kind? Try renaming your meshes and textures folders one at a time (i.e., rename your meshes folder, start the game, then do it separately with your textures) and see if your game starts. If it does, that means you have an issue with one of those files and you may need to go through whichever folder is causing trouble and rename or cut and paste out the folders within it until you can narrow which file is giving you trouble. The problem is, I did a full clean. I started it with a new install of skyrim, skse, and live another life. It couldnt have been a mod. (unless skse or live another life did it)

I could find none of the listed in scripts or scripts/source. I feel as tho this is to much work and will simply just try the SE skyrim. Thank you anyway. If you have anything else. let me know.

So I tried a full clean. i uninstalled all mods, reinstalled the game (outside of program file) and only installed SKSE and Live another life. It still crashed.

I tried that before I cleaned everything, if that patch you linked does not work then i will have to try again.

Sadly, I did all of the mentioned with no good. even starting new CTD's the second I finish character creation. I really cant seem to find what the problem is. Any help would be great.

Why would that cause a uac issue, and what is it ? And how would i go about the wrye bash and tesVedit cleaning ? also, would it be better to do all of this on a clean install (like after i move skyrim) Windows will cause UAC (permissions) problems with files in the Program Files folder. Don't know why, not a coder or anything. In LOOT there is a link to TesVEdit when it tells you to clean. That takes you to the file and a tutorial. Unless you just want the practice, I would clean install first. Alright, Thank you. i will do that. Ill make sure to post results for others that may find this.

Why would that cause a uac issue, and what is it ? And how would i go about the wrye bash and tesVedit cleaning ? also, would it be better to do all of this on a clean install (like after i move skyrim)

So like it said in the title I Need help with my skyrim load order (original release((again, sorry if this is in the wrong place)) This is my load order, I for the life of me, can not figure out what is causing the crashing. Any help would help a lot. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 7 7 Nock2Tip.esm 8 8 ImmersiveContent.esm 9 9 Campfire.esm10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp13 d WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp14 e WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp15 f WSCO - Better NPCs.esp16 10 WetandCold.esp17 11 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp18 12 Unbelievable Grass Two - Ultra Edition.esp19 13 UltimateDragons.esp20 14 SkyUI.esp21 15 SimplyKnock.esp22 16 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp23 17 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp24 18 ICROL - Legendary.esp25 19 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp26 1a RealisticWaterTwo.esp27 1b Distant DetailHF.esp28 1c Birds.esp29 1d Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp30 1e OBIS.esp31 1f skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp32 20 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp33 21 Vivid Weathers.esp34 22 WetandCold - Ashes.esp35 23 Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp36 24 Supreme Storms.esp37 25 OBISDB.esp38 26 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp39 27 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp40 28 Cloaks.esp41 29 1nivWICCloaks.esp42 2a ResplendentArmor.esp43 2b dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp44 2c Real Roads.esp45 2d RaceMenu.esp46 2e RaceMenuPlugin.esp Potions - Requiem17.esp <not active47 2f Potions.esp48 30 potionupgrades.esp49 31 AnonymousPeople.esp50 32 MainMenu.esp51 33 mintylightningmod.esp52 34 VioLens.esp53 35 iHUD.esp54 36 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp55 37 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp56 38 Immersive Weapons.esp57 39 N2T IW.esp58 3a SMIM-Merged-All.esp59 3b Frostfall.esp60 3c SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp61 3d EnchantedArsenal.esp62 3e DeadlyCombat.esp63 3f DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp64 40 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp65 41 Better Vampires.esp66 42 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp67 43 kuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries MCM.esp68 44 kuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries.esp69 45 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp70 46 Glass Variants.esp71 47 Differently Ebony.esp72 48 StormWrathLightning.esp73 49 Animated Dragon Wings.esp74 4a Blowing in the Wind.esp75 4b Immersive Patrols II.esp76 4c Nock2Tip.esp77 4d Ursine Armour.esp78 4e iNeed.esp79 4f iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp80 50 Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp81 51 Lilarcor.esp82 52 Equipping Overhaul.esp83 53 Ish's Souls to Perks.esp84 54 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp85 55 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp86 56 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp87 57 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp88 58 Vivid Weathers - Minty Lightning patch.esp89 59 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp90 5a More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp91 5b DragonAspectToggle_DAT.esp92 5c Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp93 5d ASIS-Dependency.esp94 5e DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp