Thank you LucidAPs and Hutspot01 ... Cleared all Nexus files, Reinstall complete and files validated ... I still cant start a new game !! I get to the character creation screen and the graphics are still sketchy and messed up even though its a clean, mod free install. Is this due to the update ? It worked fine for 100+ hours before ... Do i have to some how set it back to pre update version ? thanks again