Qoat, @Zaldiir Who says I didn't like any of the games on Nexus. I liked New Vegas and I enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins, and the only one I called a train wreck was Fallout 3. That doesn't mean, however, that I think any of those games are good enough to be voted upon as examples of video games as an art-form in an exhibit. Perhaps you should read again before jumping to conclusions that allow you to dismiss other peoples' opinions. i agree with you that fallout 3 is bad, but oblivion was the train wreck, that's why Bethesda has to have modders, modders can do what Bethesda cannot. if i had to play oblivion without any mods, i would kill myself. but i think skyrim may be better, if Bethesda dose not remove vampires and they fix the npc and pc characters faces, and make them look nice instead off ugly. and make the ability of cutting in half and impaling available in the default game. because allot of modders make a mod then plant major bugs and abandon it as a prank. and some cant fix their mistakes because the construction set is so horrid. most mods ive downloaded that is major, Ive had to fix by myself, because 90 percent of all mods are abandon as alphas and betas. but still yet its better than default oblivion. i cried when i bought oblivion because it was so bad. but mods have improved it over the past 5 years its been out. i just don't know why oblivion was abandoned with so many bugs. but at least some mods fixes it.