Hi! i just hade to uninstall Fallout 3 & reinstall it again and this time i diden install the 1.7 patch. i installed the unoficial F3 patch instead. its clear to me now that i pretty much have to install FOSE to get the different mods to work. now to anser Nintiis qs: Are you using FOMM or NMM ? answer: none of them actually, i install mods "manually" (maybe thats the Issue??) What happens when you launch the game, does it simply not launch or does it crash instantly ? answer: everythings works normal as long as Patch 1.7 is not installed. when i try to launch via the Fose app, this message pops up: "you have the original retal bla bla, patch to the latest... Have you tried uninstalling everything including Patch 1.7 ? answer: Yes, same problem as long as i ignore the latest patch. Have you tried launching the game with game's own launcher? answer: yes, thas the only way i know except FOSE lancher. the annoying thing is that i every singel time have to go in to the "Datafiles" and mark every damned mod that i want to have in the game, every time before i start to play, unlike Fallout NV.. i did that just once and the mods remained marked after the first time. i'm definitely missing something!