Okay. Well I re-installed the game and I finally have it up and working, also running well. I found the patches you suggested I get and they installed fine. Maskars OO used to tell me I should load it's .esp after the bashed patch (even after I did,) but this time it said nothing, so that's fixed. I could'nt find the fcom bravil patch, but wrye bash detected fcom and installed it when I ran the better cities' .rar wizards. Unfortunately I have a personal major problem with my final install, and a few minor problems. I use a logitech gamepad f710 and also the logitech profiler that came with the gamepad (I assigned a few buttons) to play as a shortsword duel wielding paladin, and the unnecessary violence III UV action/activate/modifier button isn't working, stopping me from switching weapons to my characters left hand. Also the UV buttons sometimes don't work at all, or usually, the other two UV buttons work, but the UV attack button stops working. The main menu Load and Options screens are garbled and disjointed (screenshots attached,) and in third person view in-game the UV attack button animation doesn't show 85% of the time. The UV attack button works fine for now, but in third person the UV attack buttons animations don't seem to be working well, my character just stands there, but the sound plays and my character attacks just fine. The major problem is the UV activate button. I also tried the keyboard assignment buttons that I mapped to my gamepad via the Logitech profiler, and the UV attack key works, the UV throw key works, but the UV activate key on the keyboard seems to be unresponsive or something. I know these are very specific and rare inqueries, but if you or someone could help, I would really appreciate it. But everything else works in Oblivion, I mean I beat the game, but I never had the chance to raid and range all the dungeons, caverns, etc. with or without mods. The game looks beautiful now, gamerankings.com ranks it about a 93%-95% on PC, but now it's definitely a 100% with all the essential mods. But without the ability to switch hands with weapons, I don't even want to play anymore. Thanks for the help you provided me with early to get my game up and running, and yes, I did back up my vanilla oblivion folder. Thanks again