I do have boss and wrye bash installed. I have been using the load order boss last gave me, but the way it orders everything it essentially gets rid of the one element I wanted from SkyRe the most, the extra perks, perhaps I should just use SkyRe instead of both skyrim unleashed and skyre. Thanks for the input, I appreciate the feedback and suggestions. You are truly a gentleman and a scholar. EDIT: Success! I believe you may have isolated the problem! Thank you buckets my friend!