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Sorry to revive this old thread but im intrested in creating some custom stuff for this game , Anybody ever manage to get models back in to game as an extra & not a re-placer. Im really disappointed in FIRAXIS because they did mention modding tools, but here we are and still NOTHING:(( Feel like it was just a PR stunt. Just imagine an being able to add lots of custom maps using the game assets to the randomized map list (kinda sick of seeing the same over and over again

Yes this is somewhat shameless advertising but its also a valid point to anybody who like to fight new lore fitting Monsters & enemies. I have just released the latest build of my long running, but painfully underrated & overlooked Skyrim Witcher mod which now Adds a host of new monsters, some that were present in the Monster mod in a slightly different format. All models are personally rigged by myself and fully voiced with original sounds to be as authentic to there origins in the witcher games. The only downside would be the amount currently placed in game. but im also setting a challenge to all potential mod makers to create Monster contracts mods using the mod as a base to create esp addon modsjust like you do for the skyrim BSA, as i also placed a witchers contract board out side all taverns in skyrim for quest makers to place contracts in to hunt and slay monsters. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9198

Actually i may need have need of your skills as 2 years modding this game with plenty of side projects of the go including A GTA IV mod, trying to learn the cryEngine 3, and creating stuff in zbrush all in my spare time . I totally know where your coming from when you talk about getting burned out and going loko. You often know when your in that place when you sit down trying to do stuff spending hours and achieving nothing @ all byt jumping from one thing to the other ,well thats me experience anyway. Well i have a pretty big and complicated mod that im currently uploading the next version of and there is a lot of stuff ive not been able to do myself yet, the mod was getting way to big so i have had to break sections in to smaller standalone stuff that will act like DLC for the main file, In the next upload there is a load of monsters being added like there was in the monster mod BUT my versions are authentic to the witcher lore and i have made all as close as i can possibly get them i also added a witchers noticeboard outside most taverns where i placed a template contract .in with the goal of other modders like yourself adding contracts to the boards to hunt/slay monsters for rewards and you will get the credits for doing so as you will be able to create your own esp mods they will use the assets in the main file of my witcher mod. Plus i have a load of storylines including the main plot line i would love to add, that i just dont seem to have time to do. i also have loads of other stuiff that needs doing that may require scripting skills .like triggered events , adding bleeding perks to weapons , and bleeding resistance to certain armors , witcher toxicity, quests from the NPC packs i intend to add.crafting, the list seems endless. let me know if your interested. my file will take a while to upload and ive hidden the link while its in progress as im editing the page. so you wont find it just yet.

Unfortunately i tried this with some of the witcher animations and while some of the text is readable, most of the text was indecipherable symbols so no luck there. but they are in a propitiatory format .W2ANIMS I wonder if its an xml thing? I noticed a lot of lines i found interesting which suggests they used the havok engine,i will have to look in to converting this file to kf but i cant fins a skeleton.hkx ref in the txt. I do have a ragdoll file witcher_ragdoll.w2ragdoll but dont know what i need to do atm. W2_Assets\characters\templates\witcher\witcher_mimics.HKX Havok-6.5.0-r1 \W2_Assets\characters\templates\witcher\animation\Witcher_steel\witcher\steel_high_dagger_throw.hkx O ÿÿ R>”¹\=ý§ò½ÇSx? 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WOW can all animation data file be extracted in that way as i have some animations from the witcher 2 and da2 i want to load in max.

if you ever want to animate faces with tri files you may eventually find this thread helpful as its full of great information from two of the best guys in the business on that topic, helped me no end :) http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/832728-skyrim-facial-animation-from-custom-skeletal-rig/

ight be overkill, also it is a massive mod with over 200 mb as a regular mod might be 2-20 mb, but lots of meshes and retextures, Lol there is not such thing as a regular mod my friend , My own mods update is borderline 400mb+ so doesn't sweat the size buddy, put i what you think the mood needs or will benefit. Past that put up a poll if you must. :) just forget about a steam release with there pathetic filesize and no rar format limitations

Thank once again , seems my max may not be exporting obj files correctly as i can remember the uvw's have also been knows too get messed up. But i did the work around a exporting them as nilfs and exported the obj's from there and after writing notes on what works and what dont by trial and error i managed to get a couple of expressions working. Happy and sad. now for the eyes and mouth meshes to. i do now understand why so few modders have done skyrim face morphs on custom heads now to date i can only think of one so i guess im in the minority Atm. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3231/facewgm.png

kind of reminds me of age of Conan. great work on the sharks and jellys looking forwards to fearing the water :)

Arrgh its not going well still:( Basically i scrapped all the face morphs and created better ones using the original head bones from the original model and 3dsmax morpher modifier. so now i have a slightly different head model and new face morphs to use also, which is great, but i am unable add those face morphs to the original MaleHead.tri or the last custom one i created , without an issue saying the tri file has 1588 verts and the obj file has 1480 verts , so i decided its because the original meshes are slightly different. so tried to create a brand new tri file from the new basis head. well long story short i still get the same problem and ive run out of ideas because there is no other way i know , how to actually create a new tri file based on the custom head mesh that i can add morph targets to. and the guy who upped the blender import export script is being quiet , Man Blender suck big time everything is such a hassle with that program. i also tried to add the morph targets in to blender and add them as shape keys to the basis head , but nothing i do works , and im stuck with blender 2.4a because of the script i use for extracting witcher meshes only works on that version. Im getting Render Rage. i have no idea where these extra verts are coming from as its a direct obj import, tri export

Removed comment on issue as i solved it >:)

extract the bsa file with a bsa extractor and look at the content , then go through and manually remove all the bits that the dancing mod added, if unchecking it it did not help.

Kill them!, Kill them ALL!!!!!!. The dead dont dance Unless you count thriller. sorry but this made me lol

i cant help with morphs as im only just starting to mess with them for face animations but as for copying and pasting in nilfskope yes you can you have to right click on the part you want and copy branch, then right click in the new nilf on any bit and paste branch. but unless your other meshes have been shaped to worrk perfectly with it its gonna look crappy , because the underlying mesh will clip through the bits around in when its animating.

face and body/skin textures need to be assigned via the the CK and linked to the body meshes via new separate skin-texture files( i suggest you look up how they have done it with the original bodys. i had the same problems with my geralt of rivia in the beginning. the problem you have is that the bshaderlighting on the bodys and head are still using what they are linked to no matter what you do out side the ck.

Yeah all sand, throw in the draugr eye fx and rig worm meshes to the ice wraiths on a big scale and you have a good place to start with a Dune Mod. would really like to see a dune overhaul , could even easily make those personal Cube sheilds not forgetting words of power as the Weirding Way

Wit that in mind im going to stick too crafting diagrams until we can easily create custom category's.

Well if this eventually does take off i place my reserve on Witcher armour crafting slot right now :). As i will totally be creating one when it becomes possible.

Thanks throttlekitty between yourself and Ghogiel i believe you are both the best in the business for Face morphs . If i ever pull this of and get a good work flow its only fair i put up a decent tutorial to help others avoid these speed bumps in return for the help you are both giving me :D. Still would be awesome if somebody out there made a 3dsmax plugin over the blender one as i don't think i would be having these issues as ive become quite resourceful in Max. Update.. although it may look bad in the pic i still see it as a step in the right direction and its prob more to do with the fact that i know my self that the heads were not positioned in max 100% as when i exported them the were as you seen them in a line. DOH! and ive read that the morphs remember the vertex position in space. I pretty much in put the code in the format you suggested without all the <(" stuff and it worked , only tried the anger expression so far but like i said i can try more once i get this other issue fixed up http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/3096/91749256.png

this app seems a dead end it dosent matter what i try it does not work ,just throws up this same error http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/807/34646351.png

I tried to get around the addmorph issue by using the blender script http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/14589 the plan was to import all the morph targets and add them as keyshapes to the basis , but the instructions never covered that part & i dont like to use blender so i end up with all the targets in the scene but cant seem to make them keyshapes for the mesh as i have no idea how to and no amount of messing about seemed to get me anywhere Back on To addmorph tool, these are the instructions for use, but for me they are a bit vague for my understanding as i found my mind requires things to be specific for me to understand fully. AddMorph <Input TRI file> <Output TRI file> <An OBJ file with your morph> <The name of the morph to create> <An OBJ file with your morph> <The name of the morph to create> so ? is this section just referencing the input output functuions or is it required to input & am i required to also type the input & output words in these codes <Input TRI file> <Output TRI file> for example <input MoodHappy [15]> <output geralt face morphs> im kind of confused by this tool

cant seem to get the addmorph thingy working right as it keeps giving me an error and the thing flashers up and vanished within a second so i had to get to it via the cmd & cd commands. But i noticed that you said this.- (you don't need to export an actual packed tri file from max. just Objs) Im at a loss as all the max morp tuts ive viewed were basically for animation purposes and i can find any single bit of info on what to do with the head after ive created the targets for it. or how you can export them. do i just export it as an obj? that dont seem right some how as im trying to make a tri file and wouldn't exporting it as an obj loses all targets? Am i supposed to collapse the morph modifier? What is involved in exporting a packed tri files for use in skyrim ive looked all over the net and cant find any info on how to export them or how it is supposed to work with my custom skyrim head

Thanks for your help so far Ghogiel i think i may finally be heading in the right direction. with the help of the blender tri importer script i was able to capture a screen of all the morph target names http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/795/facetrinames.png And i also have been watching some tutorials on The 3dsmax Morpher modifier and am now starting to under stand the basics of how morph targets work I even made a few facial states by hand from one of the the custom heads im using. http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/2130/geraltfaces.png I am thinking of redoing all the heads and using the the original rigging with face bones on each to create the expressions then capturing the mesh state with the snapshot tool for each morph target then injecting them in to the default male head tri.file one by one with the addmorph ,there by replacing the expressions with my custom mesh ones one by one as i dont know how to create a new tri. files. also the original target. names would they need to just be called by the name EG Moodhappy, or do you think they would also require the number in brackets EG MoodHappy [13] . Any thoughts on my methods as this is all new ground for me

AddMorph Is that a function in max or a stand alone program ive never heard it mentioned before?

that was the plan to create a skyrim skeleton that can have normal face rigged animations ,but getting the expressions to play on request like the ingame morphs do is the area im not clear on. As for the difference in tri files i would not know as i never modded oblivion and am not able to open or mod skyrim tri files either as there are no proper working tools for 3dsmax to do so with. Nothing that i have used works with them.