I am using OMM, and i have no load order to post, because i have disabled all mods i had, all my mods were made into OMOD s by me. I also managed to disable DarknifiedUi and regenerated the ini, again. I have tried fumbling with various water settings back when i got the problem and first posted this topic weeks ago. I had no luck. Also i would like to again bring to attention the curious fact that ripples do work, but only in lake Rumare edit:Upon further investigation, the ripples also work in Bravil, but not in that pond in anvil, and not in that river that passes through EDIT: Cheydinhal, while inside Cheydinhal. another edit: Well anyways it turned out that Oblivion Graphics Extender was at fault, now the question remains, is it possible to get it functioning in a way that does not bring back the transparency issue? (I only use godrays on that)