Urek101

Hey man, I died about 20 times and not one crash so it looks good! Thanks so much, this was my last big problem with the game and I think you fixed it. For anyone reading this I downloaded the fix he mention and just activated it in mod organizer, then you also have to download SKSE plugin preloader, and just drop that into you Skyrim directory where the Skyrim.exe file is. So far has seemed to completely fix my death to reload crashes.

To use the crash fixes did you install the SKSE Plugin Preloader? If so is installing the Plugin Preloader the same for Mod Organizer? Thanks mate!

Thanks! I'll give it try

Also I thought I would mention that I am running on a completely clean save, and that my rig is a high end laptop maintaining 40 fps at all times. I am also using the memory bloc fix. 16 gigs of ram gtx 970m quad core processor

I have 150+ mods, game is running relatively smooth but I seem to crash a lot on death reloads. My game is also quite difficult with all the different mods so it is quite annoying. Any suggestions? Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmFalskaar.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmCampfire.esmApachiiHair.esmnotice board.espAzarHair.esmCutting Room Floor.espWSCO - OcciBetterMale.espUnbelievable Grass Two.espReal Roads.espSkyUI.espChesko_WearableLantern.espVivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espSkyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.espVividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espVividian - Red light Fix.espVividian - Torches Preset.espVividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.espBeards.espTKDodge.espWetandCold.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espAOS.espVivid Weathers.espVivid Weathers - AOS patch.espVivid Weathers - Falskaar.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espSmartCast_1_0.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espFootprints.espWetandCold - Ashes.espDeadlyDragons.espAOS2_DD Patch.espAOS2_DSI Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espSRG Enhanced Trees Activator.espConvenient Horses.esp3DNPC.espHelgen Reborn.espRealisticWaterTwo.espBlues Skyrim.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esphold guard.espGrass Clipping Fix.espBirdsofskyrim.espOBIS.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espUndeath.espCombat Evolved.espDeadlyCombat.espattack commitment movement speed fluid 3.espAction Combat.espImmersive detection of NPC.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espBucklers Only.espOBISDB.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.espLocalizedGuildJobs.espInconsequential NPCs.espTheFrontier.espOne With Nature - DG+DB.espPopulated Dungns Caves Ruins Legendary.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espDragonmournInn.espLore Weapon Expansion.espHigh Level Enemies.espCloaks.espSMIM-Merged-All.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espUnique Uniques.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espAOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espDVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.espNonEssentialChildren.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espPopulated Forts Towers Places Legendary.espFrostfall.espHeljarchenFarm.espTheDomain.espWindstadMine.espfallentreebridges.espJaxonzMapMarkers.espAdalMatar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espPopulated Cities 2.espNorthernCardinal.espImmersive Patrols II.espRelationship Dialogue Overhaul.espRDO - UFO v1.2i Patch.espHothFollower.espWSCO - Better NPCs.espCompanionValfar.espRDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.espFGT.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espSleepTight.espHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.espHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.espHigh Level Enemies - Falskaar.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espBetter Vampires.espDawnguardArsenal.espLIAT - Sounds.espTradeRoutes.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espTradeBarter.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espRND_AnimalLoot.espHoldBorderBanners.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espThe Huntsman.espLIAT - NPCs.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espReduced Distance NPC Greetings.espTradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.espTradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.espMore Believable Carrying Weight.espEnchantedArsenal.espImmersiveSpells.espVL No AoE Drain.espSlower Leveling Fixed - 3x.espNorthernCardinal_Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espsummersetisles.espVivid Weathers - Summerset.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espMoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espGypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espPathOfSorcery.espPoS Apocalypse Patch.espFNIS.espBashed Patch, 0.espDual Sheath Redux.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp

Hey I figured it out! just a simple load order switch or it could of just been bad luck when it comes to caravan timing. Anyways if you could still take a look at my patch order I'd appreciate it.

Also would definitely like to know if I have my patches (FNIS, Bashed, Duel Sheath, and Asis) in the correct order

If you change your load order after creating a bash patch do you have to create a new patch? Ok that's the easy question, the second is a request for anyone to take a look at my load order and tell me if you see any problems, game is running almost flawlessly at this point (except my Khajit caravans have completely dissapeared...no idea). Thanks! Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espFalskaar.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmCampfire.esmApachiiHair.esmnotice board.espCutting Room Floor.espWSCO - OcciBetterMale.espUnbelievable Grass Two.espReal Roads.espSkyUI.espChesko_WearableLantern.espVivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espSkyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.espVividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espVividian - Red light Fix.espVividian - Torches Preset.espVividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espBeards.espTKDodge.espWetandCold.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espAOS.espVivid Weathers.espVivid Weathers - AOS patch.espVivid Weathers - Falskaar.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espSmartCast_1_0.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espFNISSexyMove.espCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espFootprints.espWetandCold - Ashes.espDeadlyDragons.espAOS2_DD Patch.espAOS2_FIO Patch.espAOS2_DSI Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espSRG Enhanced Trees Activator.espConvenient Horses.esp3DNPC.espHelgen Reborn.espRealisticWaterTwo.espBlues Skyrim.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esphold guard.espGrass Clipping Fix.espBirdsofskyrim.espOBIS.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espUndeath.espCombat Evolved.espDeadlyCombat.espattack commitment movement speed fluid 3.espDeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.espAction Combat.espImmersive detection of NPC.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espBucklers Only.espOBISDB.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.espLocalizedGuildJobs.espInconsequential NPCs.espTheFrontier.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espHigh Level Enemies.espImmersiveSpells.espDragonmournInn.espCloaks.espSMIM-Merged-All.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espScopedBows.espUnique Uniques.espAOS2_GDO Patch.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espAOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espBetter Vampires.espVL No AoE Drain.espDVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.espNonEssentialChildren.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.espScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.espFrostfall.espHeljarchenFarm.espTheDomain.espWindstadMine.espfallentreebridges.espJaxonzMapMarkers.espAdalMatar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espPopulated Cities 2.espImmersive Patrols II.espHothFollower.espWSCO - Better NPCs.espCompanionValfar.espFGT.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espSleepTight.espHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.espHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.espHigh Level Enemies - Falskaar.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espLIAT - Sounds.espTradeRoutes.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espRND_USKP-Patch.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espTradeBarter.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espRND_AnimalLoot.espHoldBorderBanners.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espsummersetisles.espVivid Weathers - Summerset.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espMoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espThe Huntsman.espLIAT - NPCs.espGypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espCWINPCOpulentOutfits.espReduced Distance NPC Greetings.espTradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.espTradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.espMore Believable Carrying Weight.espSlower Leveling Fixed - 3x.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espPathOfSorcery.espPoS Apocalypse Patch.espFNIS.espBashed Patch, 0.espDual Sheath Redux.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp

Here is my plugins list, I just copied it over. If you see any discrepancies just let me know, also if you have the time please tell me if my patch order at the bottom (bash, asis, duel sheath redux, FNIS) are correct. Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmFalskaar.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esmCampfire.esmApachiiHair.esmnotice board.espCutting Room Floor.espWSCO - OcciBetterMale.espUnbelievable Grass Two.espReal Roads.espSkyUI.espChesko_WearableLantern.espVivid Weathers - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espSkyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.espVividian - Lanterns of Skyrim Preset.espVividian - Red light Fix.espVividian - Torches Preset.espVividian - Wearable Lanterns Preset.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espBeards.espTKDodge.espWetandCold.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espImmersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espAOS.espVivid Weathers.espVivid Weathers - AOS patch.espVivid Weathers - Falskaar.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espSmartCast_1_0.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espFNISSexyMove.espCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espFootprints.espWetandCold - Ashes.espDeadlyDragons.espAOS2_DD Patch.espAOS2_DSI Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espSRG Enhanced Trees Activator.espConvenient Horses.esp3DNPC.espHelgen Reborn.espRealisticWaterTwo.espBlues Skyrim.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.esphold guard.espGrass Clipping Fix.espBirdsofskyrim.espOBIS.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espUndeath.espCombat Evolved.espDeadlyCombat.espattack commitment movement speed fluid 3.espAction Combat.espImmersive detection of NPC.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espImmersive Weapons.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espBucklers Only.espOBISDB.espFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.espLocalizedGuildJobs.espInconsequential NPCs.espTheFrontier.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espHigh Level Enemies.espImmersiveSpells.espDragonmournInn.espCloaks.espSMIM-Merged-All.espUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.espScopedBows.espUnique Uniques.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espAOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp1nivWICCloaks.esp1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.espBetter Vampires.espVL No AoE Drain.espDVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.espNonEssentialChildren.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.espScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.espFrostfall.espHeljarchenFarm.espTheDomain.espWindstadMine.espfallentreebridges.espJaxonzMapMarkers.espAdalMatar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espPopulated Cities 2.espImmersive Patrols II.espHothFollower.espWSCO - Better NPCs.espCompanionValfar.espFGT.espHothFollower UFO Patch.espSleepTight.espHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.espHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.espHigh Level Enemies - Falskaar.espAgentOfRighteousMight.espLIAT - Sounds.espTradeRoutes.espRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espRND_Dawnguard-Patch.espRND_Dragonborn-Patch.espTradeBarter.espRND_HearthFires-Patch.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espRND_AnimalLoot.espHoldBorderBanners.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espsummersetisles.espVivid Weathers - Summerset.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espMoonAndStar_Undeath_compat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espThe Huntsman.espLIAT - NPCs.espGypsyEyesCaravan.V.2.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espReduced Distance NPC Greetings.espTradeRoutes-HelgenReborn-Patch.espTradeRoutes-RNaD-Patch.espMore Believable Carrying Weight.espSlower Leveling Fixed - 3x.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espPathOfSorcery.espPoS Apocalypse Patch.espFNIS.espBashed Patch, 0.espDual Sheath Redux.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espASIS-Dependency.espASIS.espDeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp

Apparently modwat.ch server is not working

Got it, thanks.

When creating my bash patch I noticed that not all my mods containing leveled lists were listed in the "leveled lists" pane of my bash patch when I was rebuilding the patch. (Example Immersive Armors) But in game npcs are receiving and equipping sets from immersive armors so it seems to be working, but none of my npcs are receiving or equipping wearable lanterns which was also not listed in the bash patch. Should all mods that have leveled lists how up in the bash patch leveled lists pane? If so why would some not show up. Thanks!

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Posting next two parts of mod list, one more after this

Anyone have any idea why my caravans could be missing? I have 150+ mods and my game is running perfectly stable, leveled lists working, quite proud of myself actually. But I recently realized the Khajit caravans are totally gone, I've slept for hours and traveled to all the city locations. Anyone have any ideas? I'll post my mod list in a series of pictures.