But... The Dwemer devices ARE magical... Don't be fooled by the steam engines and gears, the Dwemer were exceptionally well versed in magic. So much so that modern scholars fight over every scrap of Dwemer tonal-lore. The Dwemer were, to our knowlege, the paramount artificers in techno-magic, as in they combines hard science with magical science in almost everything they did. This is clearly seen in the designs of their creations. The Centurions run off an internal boiler, powered by Soul Stones. The Dwemer orrery's react directly to magic. The most famous Dwemer artifacts are enchanted to a degree which no living Mage could manage. The Dwemer are not just Steampunk Elves in the TES universe, they were masters of science and magic, particularly because they used a scientific method on everything. Rather than atributing Magicka soley to the gods, they worked to understand its nature, and thus could do things with Magic that no one before or since has been able to. @Lachdonin: I think you are supporting darth's point :) Also, for those who watch this thread that are modders, have you guys heard/tried using SkyEdit to mod? If so, is it relatively new-modder friendly, in the sense that one could figure out how to use it even if they are brand-spanking new to modding?