not particularly my place, but i have to ask a question, and make a statement. Q. are you sure you don't work for valve? because~> S. You fail to see that it doesn't matter who's fault it was that he couldn't play a game he paid money for, the fact that he couldn't is what's important. if skyrim never had steam>he could have played if pirated>he could play with steam>could not play doesn't matter if it's his connection, his isp's connection, steams servers/connection, or a monkey swinging from transmission lines screwing up the connection. he could not play because of steam. steam is what's at fault, nothing else. because no steam he would have never had that problem. Exactly. Steam isn't giving me any "service" I want at all. It is instead a barrier to me playing when I want to do so.