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  1. Vupix298: apologies, my previous reply was also based on the assumption you had minimized or closed to task area.

     

    Vortex consists of multiple processes, that's just how electron is designed. One main process that controls the others and does some data keeping, one for the UI, one for the mod installation process, one for LOOT (if you're running a bethesda game), one for gpu rendering (unless you disabled that in settings) and one - I don't actually know what it does, it's part of electron. There may be even more depending on the situation.

     

    When you close Vortex in the UI, that sends a signal to the main process that then signals all sub-processes to close before closing itself. I'm fairly certain that in your case the main process and the ui process at least did close but then one or potentially multiple of the sub-processes failed to shut down for some reason™ and without the ui and main processes there's also no way to communicate a problem to you.

     

    I've seen this happen in development builds when the main process crashes instead of shutting down properly but not like you describe. Unfortunately there is also little to go off in terms of investigating.

    If you experience this again you could use task manager to see the command line of the process(es) still alive (right click the column headers in task manager and enable the "Command line" column) and send in a log file through the feedback system

    I appreciate the explanation, thank you!

     

    Glad to at least bring awareness to something potentially happening. I will be glad to keep an eye out to see if it happens again and follow what you have said. It is quite a vague error at the moment, but clearly not nuclear in danger lol

     

    thank you for the response.

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    you do understand, if you "close" the program, and its still consuming resources, it's not "closed" as in not running any more, right?

    you may have "closed" it - but it obviously didn't leave your system for some odd reason - and when that happens, the program goes into a "zombie" state, where it can sit, consuming resources until you force it out of the system, or reboot. Hence my suggestions previously.

    do you think that "closing" the program means it should use 0% cpu, i/o and any other resource? thats not how computers work. at all. if you want it to consume no resources then it needs to not be running at all.

    yes, thank you for re-stating the exact problem. I closed it. it was still using high resources despite being closed and un-used for two days. that is the exact issue. that is clearly un-intended use of the programme, it shouldn't run when it's been exited. I reported this behaviour. you have now re-stated the issue for some reason, as if I don't know what I've been saying this whole time. thank you again for your input. I am thanking you again so you don't misinterpret this as anything but polite and on point again.

    i gave you the solution to your issue. reboot. you're welcome.

     

    please read my second reply to you in this thread. here it is for your convenience:

    I ended the process and restarted before posting and it is gone, however it is still an issue that occurred when it shouldn't and so needs reporting. it could be a potential bug and reports help build awareness.

     

    I have already rebooted and the issue no longer persists. but it still happened, and should be reported to bring awareness for anything potentially wrong, or if it's happened to others. multiple user reports, if it happens to multiple users, can help with troubleshooting or determining causes of a potential issue. can create a timeline. check for behaviour patterns. be generally helpful to know if something out of the ordinary happens that is unexpected.

  3. Do you have Vortex set to start up when Windows does? Can you verify there is a background process from Vortex that persists when closing? Are there any specific actions that may have caused this?

     

    If there is a process left behind my guess would be some kind of local security software is preventing it from shutting down properly.

    nope, vortex does not start upon startup. what do you mean by verify? I included the screenshot that shows it up and running when it was closed, NOT minimised. all I had done two days ago was uninstall and re-install some mods, update a couple, and then play my game. Exited the game and exited vortex. went to sleep. didn't use it again until I noticed the fans were still going full blast despite low usage. checked task manager. Vortex was listed high for CPU and power usage as in the screenshots. took the screenshot, closed everything else and restarted my laptop. it is no longer running at all in task manager since the restart, however it was still something that obviously happened that shouldn't have, so I thought to report the behaviour in case there were other reports, or other people with the same issue. create a log.

    I use malwarebytes and have vortex in the allow list/white list. never had this issue before now! and I check vortex regularly so I can play my games.

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    are you sure that it didn't crash on you and you have a zombie process just sitting there consuming resources?

    try and force it out of your system, or reboot and see what occurs?

    it did not crash, I closed it.

     

    I ended the process and restarted before posting and it is gone, however it is still an issue that occurred when it shouldn't and so needs reporting. it could be a potential bug and reports help build awareness.

     

    if you don't actually know, I ask that you please do not comment as I am trying to report to staff or mods. thanks!

     

    I don't think there's any call for that response. that is not how forums work.

    my reply to you was on point and polite. if you can't reciprocate that then its best you say nothing?

    also - its not a "bug". you obviously closed it but that does not mean the program completely shuts down. hence me suggesting - not unreasonably that it may be in a zombie state and a reboot would resolve it.

     

    my reply to you was also on point and polite. I said please, and thanked you. my response was fine. not sure why you think there wasn't a call for it? I'm trying to report an issue and you don't know anything.

    it appears i know a tad more than you. adding a "please" to a shitpost doesn't mean its not a shitpost. but hey - you do you. i hope you get your "bug" fixed. if it were me, i'd try a reboot - and i'd also recycle my pc.

     

    ok. now I am being rude. you are being unhelpful and provocative. please do not comment again so I can focus on troubleshooting this issue with those who know something. now I am not being rude. thank you.

  5. you do understand, if you "close" the program, and its still consuming resources, it's not "closed" as in not running any more, right?

    you may have "closed" it - but it obviously didn't leave your system for some odd reason - and when that happens, the program goes into a "zombie" state, where it can sit, consuming resources until you force it out of the system, or reboot. Hence my suggestions previously.

    do you think that "closing" the program means it should use 0% cpu, i/o and any other resource? thats not how computers work. at all. if you want it to consume no resources then it needs to not be running at all.

    yes, thank you for re-stating the exact problem. I closed it. it was still using high resources despite being closed and un-used for two days. that is the exact issue. that is clearly un-intended use of the programme, it shouldn't run when it's been exited. I reported this behaviour. you have now re-stated the issue for some reason, as if I don't know what I've been saying this whole time. thank you again for your input. I am thanking you again so you don't misinterpret this as anything but polite and on point again.

  6. you do understand, if you "close" the program, and its still consuming resources, it's not "closed" as in not running any more, right?

    you may have "closed" it - but it obviously didn't leave your system for some odd reason - and when that happens, the program goes into a "zombie" state, where it can sit, consuming resources until you force it out of the system, or reboot. Hence my suggestions previously.

    do you think that "closing" the program means it should use 0% cpu, i/o and any other resource? thats not how computers work. at all. if you want it to consume no resources then it needs to not be running at all.

    yes, thank you for re-stating the exact problem. I closed it. it was still using high resources despite being closed and un-used for two days. that is the exact issue. that is clearly un-intended use of the programme, it shouldn't run when it's been exited. I reported this behaviour. you have now re-stated the issue for some reason, as if I don't know what I've been saying this whole time. thank you again for your input. I am thanking you again so you don't misinterpret this as anything but polite and on point again.

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    are you sure that it didn't crash on you and you have a zombie process just sitting there consuming resources?

    try and force it out of your system, or reboot and see what occurs?

    it did not crash, I closed it.

     

    I ended the process and restarted before posting and it is gone, however it is still an issue that occurred when it shouldn't and so needs reporting. it could be a potential bug and reports help build awareness.

     

    if you don't actually know, I ask that you please do not comment as I am trying to report to staff or mods. thanks!

     

    I don't think there's any call for that response. that is not how forums work.

    my reply to you was on point and polite. if you can't reciprocate that then its best you say nothing?

    also - its not a "bug". you obviously closed it but that does not mean the program completely shuts down. hence me suggesting - not unreasonably that it may be in a zombie state and a reboot would resolve it.

     

    my reply to you was also on point and polite. I said please, and thanked you. my response was fine. not sure why you think there wasn't a call for it? I'm trying to report an issue and you don't know anything.

  8. The cpu usage is a running average over the last few seconds.

    Vortex should not be causing this kind of cpu usage if it's actually idle, for me it sits at below 0.01%

    But there are things that will continue running independent of whether it's in the foreground or not, e.g. if the loot sorting for the plugins screen is active, it will run until finished or if you just finished (a) large download(s) and Vortex is calculating the checksums for those, that happens independent of whether Vortex is in the foreground.

    the last use was two days ago. It was closed since then--X button closed, not minimised. Was not running. No icon in the task bar. Was not downloading anything.

  9. are you sure that it didn't crash on you and you have a zombie process just sitting there consuming resources?

    try and force it out of your system, or reboot and see what occurs?

    it did not crash, I closed it.

     

    I ended the process and restarted before posting and it is gone, however it is still an issue that occurred when it shouldn't and so needs reporting. it could be a potential bug and reports help build awareness.

     

    if you don't actually know, I ask that you please do not comment as I am trying to report to staff or mods. thanks!

  10. its probably performing some background tasks - checking nexusmods for certain things like new mods that may have been made available, or news updates and such.

    you don't need vortex active if you're not using it. if the cpu consumption bothers you, simply close the application.

     

    if that were true, this would be a normal occurrence after using it. it is not. and if it were running background tasks like that, it would show the icon on the task bar as an active programme as all other active programmes do when not open but still running. it does not.

  11. Hello. I was downloading some mods the other day, finished, and played my game with no issues with the mods. Vortex was then closed. I noticed since then, my laptop's fans were constantly running loudly when they normally wouldn't. I checked my task manager to find that Vortex, despite being closed, is currently using between 17% and 19.8% CPU, and the power usage is listed as Very high. My next highest tasks are only using like 0.7% CPU at the moment. Vortex version 1.5.11. Screenshot of task manager is attached. Vortex is CLOSED and not in use. Not in the task bar at all. Why is this happening?

     

     

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