InfernoZola

I'll have to try and learn TES4Edit, I didn't have much fun with its variants for Skyrim and Morrowind, but I guess I'll have to deal with it.

And this magical saga comes to an end. Of all the things it could have been, it was Reclaiming Sancre Tor. Reclaiming Sancre Tor. Does not compute.

Got mad at my friend poking me on my modding skills and turned all of the mods off... ...It worked. Edit: I'll gradually go through and reactivate each mod, and see which one was causing the game to throw a fit when I went into that area. HotD wasn't the cause, it appears. It must have been whatever added that cave because it's gone now (re-added HotD and the cave is still missing)

Nope, test character didn't work either. Something tells me it might be the cell itself.

I shall make a new character for testing purposes and send them out to the inn to see if it was anything to do with my character (doubtful since it was almost fresh, I had only been playing for about an hour). I'll keep testing but this is growing tiring, load, crash, load, walk a few steps, crash. If the recreated character (without the bashed patch/HotD/MOO running) doesn't work I'll comment on Maskar's mod to see if it can be fixed in any way. Bummer, I wasn't expecting quest mods to break the game lol.

Deactivated Maskar, no luck.

Yeah, this cave isn't going away at all.

On a slightly related note to this, Wyre Bash is being a pain in the ass and keeps reactivating Heart of the Dead when I rebuild the Bash Patch. Bloody thing. Managed to get it to bugger off after a while.

Same break, crashes when entering the area near the inn. This time it was near the cave along the road. I had to make a small detour to avoid a bit of a battle between a bandit, a harpy (modded creature that kicked my ass once before) and a mountain lion, but still shows that no matter which way I enter, the crash occurs. Not sure if it's an NPC, or what, because I was able to find the two you mentioned (and I have not started the main quest yet).

Already got it, trying to get to Brina Cross Inn. No matter which way I go to the inn (from Kvatch/Skingrad side or Anvil side) it just crashes. I do have a feeling it is the cell. I even tried reinstalling, but to no avail.

I have encountered both the guard and the courier, as well as a highwayman that almost crushed my squishy mage. (Found some light armour on them afterwards to go towards my class so worth it). It's only after these that I encounter this crash. I will reload and try it once I have finished the Bashed Patch. Update: Bashed Patch didn't work, but I at least got closer to the inn this time around by going the other way. I found our two little friends too. https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198079415689/screenshot/968746077908802399

As a bonus, the game is now lagging (Seems to have corrected itself) and the Steam Overlay is running at a snail's pace. The crash happens a few seconds after the "Loading Area..." message appears. Here is the updated modlist.

Yes, that little issue is fixed, however, the case of the crashing is still occurring. I'm trying to figure out the cause. It's always when running along the road between Anvil ans Kvatch/Skingrad, right before I go over the hill towards the Brina Cross Inn.

I recently wiped Oblivion in order to remod it from the ground up, as my game wasn't exactly the most stable. I have since remodded it and have just started a playthrough, but I already have encountered issues. When approaching the Brina Cross Inn, my game immediately crashes. I thought this was just a regular CTD and reloaded my game, but it happened again at that exact point. For the sake of confirmation I tried it again twice. Yep, crash. From what I have gathered online it may be a bad cell, but I can't be sure as I'm not the most technical-minded person out there. If anyone can help, it would be much appreciated, ask any questions you need to. 01 Knights - Revelation.esm 02 CM Partners.esm 03 Windfall.esm 04 CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm 05 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 06 Knights.esp 07 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 08 DLCFrostcrag.esp 09 DLCHorseArmor.esp 0A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 0B DLCOrrery.esp 0C DLCSpellTomes.esp 0D DLCThievesDen.esp 0E DLCVileLair.esp 0F DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.14] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp 10 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 11 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 12 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 13 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 14 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 15 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 16 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 17 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.15] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 18 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 19 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 1A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.9] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 1B DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 1C Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.6] 1D Knights - Revelation.esp 1E MidasSpells.esp 1F The Lost Spires.esp 20 HeartOftheDead.esp [Version 6.0] 21 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0RC1] 22 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 23 CurseOfHircine - Symphony of Night.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: CurseOfHircine.esp 24 C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp 25 CurseOfHircine.esp 26 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.9.3] 27 Windfall.esp 28 ReclaimSancreTor.esp [Version 1.0.5] 29 Guards.esp 2A DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp [Version 1.2.6] 2B delivery_job.esp [Version 1.2x] 2C Fighters Guild Quests.esp 2D GuildAdvancement.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Mages Guild Quests.esp 2E Steve - Thieves Guils HQ.esp 2F Mages Guild Quests.esp If it is the delinquents that are causing the issue, I'm in the middle of fixing them. BOSS kinda crapped itself on that one. Edit: It wasn't BOSS, it was Wrye Bash, and it won't admit it's wrong.

I managed to fix it. Can't exactly pinpoint what did it, but it could have potentially been redoing the distant lands generator IN MGSO, rather than just MGE. Whatever the case may be, I hope this helps anyone.

This is an interesting issue, I can't seem to find the issue that's causing it unfortunately., Most of my mods are from MGSO or the Code Patch and the rest are either quest/faction mods, compatability patches and one race mod. If anyone can help me figure this out it would be much appreciated. If there are any load order errors, please let me know so I can manually fix them. I'm not the brightest bulb out there when it comes to these things. _001_ Morrowind.esm _002_ Tribunal.esm _003_ Bloodmoon.esm _004_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm _005_ Texture Fix 2.0.esm _006_ GDR_MasterFile.esm _007_ Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm _008_ Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm _009_ Wyrmhaven.esm _010_ Rise of House Telvanni.esm _011_ _Mog_Race_v4b.esp _012_ Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp _013_ Windows Glow.esp _014_ Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp _015_ JEB_muffin_fix.esp _016_ Amulet of Scrye.esp _017_ Mog_JumpFix.esp _018_ Nevena's Twin Lamps & Slave Hunters 1.5.esp _019_ _Mog_ENABLE_ONLY_IF_EXPANSIONS_PRESENT.esp _020_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp _021_ Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp _022_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp _023_ WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP _024_ Better Skulls.ESP _025_ Particle Arrow Replacer.esp _026_ Vality's Balmora Addon.esp _027_ Psy_VGR_Armour.esp _028_ MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp _029_ abotWindowsGlow.esp _030_ Statue Replacer - Normal.esp _031_ bones.esp _032_ Shieldfx.esp _033_ Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp _034_ Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp _035_ LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp _036_ RoHT TLSH Patch.esp _037_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp _038_ TurenyalRedone.ESP _039_ Wymrhaven - Grass.esp _040_ The Lamp.esp _041_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp _042_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp _043_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp _044_ correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp _045_ Bloated Caves.esp _046_ RoHT - Tureynulal Redone Patch.ESP _047_ Illuminated Order v1.0.esp _048_ Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp _049_ SirLuthor-Tools.esp _050_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp _051_ BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esp _052_ almalexia armor.esp _053_ Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp _054_ DN-GDRv1.2.esp _055_ BetterClothesForTB.esp _056_ Flee AI Tweaks.esp _057_ Graphic Herbalism.esp _058_ Golden Gold.esp _059_ guarskin_drum_replacer.esp _060_ UniqueFinery.esp _061_ Magical Missions.ESP _062_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp _063_ Clean MCFC_1.0.esp _064_ imperial chain fix.esp _065_ UF_HortRobeF001.esp _066_ ReptileInseparableSiblings.esp _067_ Female Armor - Complete.esp _068_ Better Weapons and Armors.esp _069_ OTR_Coast_Variety.esp _070_ STA_guides_replacer.esp _071_ TradeDisputes.esp _072_ Umbra, Blademaster.ESP _073_ Welcome to the Arena! v6.6.esp _074_ EndusalRedone.ESP _075_ True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp Also, I wish to ask, is it normal for Wrye Mash to try and scan the entire Data Files folder? And what do I do if tes3cmd only flashes up for a brief second, fills in with some text then closes again? Edit: After redoing the distant land generation, the game now loads, however, many of the graphical mods do not appear to want to work. Have you guys got any idea what happened? The game is also a lot less smooth than what it was before. Edit 2: I disabled all of my mods, yet the lag issue is still occurring.

Solved the issue. Qaze's Questorium was the pissant causing the crashing on the main menu. Never really intended to use it, but now that I know it was it causing the errors for the most part. I'll reinstall the poor ENBs that I blamed this on and start a new character to prevent the game getting pissy at me and get back if the game crashing still persists. Odd, it was one of the first mods I installed and ran relatively well until the ENB debacle.

All of my mods shown by Wyre Bash are green. Still crashes on the main menu. May as well deactivate mods until I find the offender.

Will do, I have been using LOOT, but not the other two. Edit; None of my mods are red. Seven have an orange tickbox (Qaze Questorium, Dreamborne Islands, Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatability Patch, Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch, RDO UFO, Vivid Weathers and Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.). Does that mean that they need to be moved? Edit 2: TES5Edit keeps encountering errors while trying to load the modules. I was able to sort a number of them, but now the game just crashes at the main menu.

I feel like an idiot, I keep pissing this game up but the godawful rendering distance was killing the game for me. Does anyone know what has gone wrong? 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyMoMod.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 Campfire.esm 9 9 Varian Wrynn Armor.esp 10 a Behemoth Dragon.esp 11 b LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 12 c Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 13 d Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 14 e Helgen Reborn.esp 15 f RealisticWaterTwo.esp 16 10 QaxeQuestorium.esp 17 11 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 18 12 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 19 13 OwnCivilWar.esp 20 14 Holidays.esp 21 15 Dwarfsphere.esp 22 16 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 23 17 RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 24 18 Inigo.esp 25 19 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 26 1a UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 27 1b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 28 1c Riverwood Reborn.esp 29 1d Tinvaak-Talking with Dragons.esp 30 1e Imp's More Complex Needs.esp 31 1f Frostfall.esp 32 20 Dreamborne Islands.esp 33 21 WorldEaterBeater.esp 34 22 DragonsDiversified.esp 35 23 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 36 24 Morning Fogs.esp 37 25 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 38 26 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 39 27 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 40 28 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 41 29 Ravengate.esp 42 2a AstridReborn.esp 43 2b Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 44 2c Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 45 2d Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 46 2e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 47 2f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 48 30 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp 49 31 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 50 32 SkyUI.esp 51 33 Shalamayne - Johnskyrim.esp 52 34 Immersive Scars.esp 53 35 Scars of Skyrim.esp 54 36 DeadlyCombat.esp 55 37 DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp 56 38 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 57 39 Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp 58 3a SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHelm_V.esp 59 3b SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHelm_V.esp 60 3c SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHelm_V.esp 61 3d WetandCold.esp 62 3e Convenient Horses.esp 63 3f Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 64 40 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 65 41 RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp 66 42 Vivid Weathers.esp 67 43 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 68 44 Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp 69 45 Real Roads.esp 70 46 Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp 71 47 KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp 72 48 1nivWICCloaks.esp 73 49 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 74 4a jknjbQQASLAL.esp I don't believe I have downloaded any extra mods bar the ones that I was told to in order to sort out the ENB issues, but I did fiddle around with the .ini files to try and increase the draw distance. That resulted in almost an instant crash. I had backed up the original .ini files and replaced them back into the My Games/Skyrim folder, but that caused crashing on the loading screen so I deleted them and recreated them by booting the game up. This worked for all of 30 seconds and it crashed again. Any help?

Do you mind posting your mod list? If it worked for vanilla then began doing it with the mods it may likely be the mods. Even if I can't help you if you post the mod load order somebody else can.

After doing this, the brightness has indeed been fixed, though the view distance has not. Is there a mod that increases the draw distance and fixes the flickering without conflicting with the mods now?

Apologies, I'll remove those at once. I do skim over the descriptions but I did not pick that up. Dumb of me, I must say.

Well, mod issues are usual for me, but I can generally fix things without much help, but this one boggles me. I believed Frostfall to be the culprit as this only popped up when it was installed, but only one of the three issues seemed to have disappeared when I uninstalled it, being the blocky blue snowflake textures. The view distance is still broken, with me being able to see further than I should (with flickering mountain textures), and the brightness is too. During the day it is fine, but at night it is far too bright in comparison to what it was before. https://imgur.com/a/MVu8kaj For all 3 issues Here is my mod Load Order 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyMoMod.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 Campfire.esm 9 9 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 a Varian Wrynn Armor.esp 11 b Behemoth Dragon.esp 12 c EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 13 d ELFX - Exteriors.esp 14 e LegacyoftheDragonborn.esp 15 f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 16 10 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 17 11 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 18 12 Helgen Reborn.esp 19 13 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 20 14 QaxeQuestorium.esp 21 15 ELFX - Weathers.esp 22 16 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 23 17 MrissiTailOfTroubles.esp 24 18 OwnCivilWar.esp 25 19 Holidays.esp 26 1a Dwarfsphere.esp 27 1b EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 28 1c RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 29 1d Inigo.esp 30 1e EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 31 1f UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 32 20 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 33 21 Riverwood Reborn.esp 34 22 Tinvaak-Talking with Dragons.esp 35 23 Imp's More Complex Needs.esp 36 24 Dreamborne Islands.esp 37 25 WorldEaterBeater.esp 38 26 DragonsDiversified.esp 39 27 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 40 28 Morning Fogs.esp 41 29 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 42 2a RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 43 2b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 44 2c RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 45 2d Ravengate.esp 46 2e AstridReborn.esp 47 2f Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp 48 30 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 49 31 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 50 32 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 51 33 Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 52 34 MoonAndStar_ImmersionPatch.esp 53 35 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 54 36 SkyUI.esp 55 37 Shalamayne - Johnskyrim.esp 56 38 Immersive Scars.esp 57 39 Scars of Skyrim.esp 58 3a DeadlyCombat.esp 59 3b DeadlyCombat_Ordinator_Patch.esp 60 3c Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp 61 3d Dragons Diversified Dragonborn Patch.esp 62 3e SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Main_AHelm_V.esp 63 3f SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC1_AHelm_V.esp 64 40 SJs_InvHelms_Eng_Plugin_DLC2_AHelm_V.esp 65 41 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp 66 42 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 67 43 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 68 44 WetandCold.esp 69 45 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 70 46 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 71 47 Convenient Horses.esp 72 48 Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp 73 49 PrvtIRoyalArmory.esp 74 4a RDO - UFO v1.2j.b15 Patch.esp 75 4b Natural Lighting Vivid Atmospherics.esp 76 4c Real Roads.esp 77 4d Grass_On_Steroids_SFO-SHORT.esp 78 4e KK_Lola_companion_wolfdog.esp 79 4f 1nivWICCloaks.esp 80 50 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 81 51 jknjbQQASLAL.esp 82 52 ELFXEnhancer.esp