Thank you for the reply! Although, if you look at all the tedious steps you are recommending I follow it actually makes my point. You are (thank you for chiming in -I would never be ungrateful for assistance) telling me to go to websites, find something or another about registries, etc etc. I mean, come on. 2018 and it's like installing wing commander on my old 486 pc years ago. Half the time the game won't work, need to change something weird here or there. ALSO, there are certain versions on nexus. certain ones on github. I truly hope that whoever makes these mod managers reads this. Look, this isn't the easiest thing. It's a PAIN. You also are telling me to look for a "model" and to look for some thread that "someone posted yesterday." Lol, Um ok. I don't toy with my registry often. I don't know what all that is either. let's try this. I'll buy anyone a $20 title of their choice on steam that CLEARLY and easily helps me figure out how on earth to mod f4 vr. Again, read my post 2 posts up and it details that I'm downloading the mods, clicking the green arrow, and they STILL don't work upon loading into f4 vr. Thank you everyone so far. Truly appreciated. It must be me. Fourteen steps to mod a game is obviously the "norm" I should be good at. LOL. Some sarcasm but somehow this is tough for me so it's on me too!