Erik005
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Two things. One, I was afraid of that, and I am highly tempted to do a whole bunch of expletives (but I won't, because this is a public forum and we should have standards).
Two, something that I CANNOT believe slipped my mind and should've added in the first post. Basically, the motherboard was labelled "refurbished" on Amazon.
...yes, I KNOW it's best not to get refurbished parts, but it was the only one in stock at the time. You're free to point and laugh.
A refurbished board is actually not a bad choice in a build like this.
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While I try to figure out if the motherboard is in fact faulty (which will likely be nigh impossible given my lack of options), there any motherboard alternatives anyone can suggest? Preferably one that A. won't burn that big a hole in my pocket and B. will NOT need to be updated for the processor.
In addition to that, is it possible to update the motherboard's BIOS without having to replace the processor? I mean, considering that the thing won't even register the monitor I doubt it's possible, but I want to make absolutely sure I don't miss anything.
A B250 board would be a good alternative.
You can not update the BIOS without replacing the processor on your board.
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So you're saying I have the wrong kind of processor? I apologize if I seem like I'm not getting it.
Yes this is exactly it, your motherboard needs an update to use the processor you have.
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B150M-GAMING-PRO#support-cpu
Your processor is supported from version 4.5
Unfortunately you need a slightly older processor to do the update, maybe a local computer shop can help.
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Unfortunately, yeah, the main issue is that the monitor will not get a signal no matter what gets plugged into where. I know someone who will be able to let me borrow their monitor to see if I just need a new one, so hopefully that'll get SOME kind of result. I appreciate the help, at least.
Oh, fabulous. Nothing's ever easy, is it?
Can you at least go into detail? Dunno what a BIOS update is, or even how to do one if it's possible.
You download a small file from the motherboard manufacturer's website, put it on an usb-drive and run in in the bios.
You would need a gen 6 processor to get in to the BIOS. Maybe a local Computer shop can update the BIOS for you.
Or you could send back your motherboard and buy a B250 board instead.
That assumes you can at least get the MB to post though. He isn't even getting that far.
You would need a 6th gen processor to post, entire forums where filled with these questions when kaby lake came out and people bought cheap b150 boards. A major tech forum in my country had a cheap skylake celeron that was passed around between users.
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Oh, fabulous. Nothing's ever easy, is it?
Can you at least go into detail? Dunno what a BIOS update is, or even how to do one if it's possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgCx-zUoKRI
You download a small file from the motherboard manufacturer's website, put it on an usb-drive and run in in the bios.
You would need a gen 6 processor to get in to the BIOS. Maybe a local Computer shop can update the BIOS for you.
Or you could send back your motherboard and buy a B250 board instead.
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Your motherboard probably needs a BIOS update, you have a 7th gen processor on a 6th gen board.
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To save money, go for an AMD 2600 (160 dollars) with an AMD RX570/580/590 with an AM4 B-450 motherboard and 2x8GB of DDR4 RAM of at least 1600MHz. That rig will have Skyrim for lunch and you'll have money left for another game...
Yes, the prices for intel processors are way to high at the moment. AMD is the way to go at the moment.
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With a 4K monitor you can't really get ultra 60fps in every game with the 1080ti
A good 1440p monitor might be a better fit for the 1080
You can run 4K with a 1080 if you turn down the quality settings though, but that is all your choice.
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Also it is a laptop CPU, so it might be soldered to the motherboard and lack any kind of upgrade ability.
It might even have a custom DC PSU
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Why not simply replace the current drive with a large SSD?
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An AMD ryzen 2600X would suit your needs.
As for the GPU, it depends on the resolution of your monitor. A nvidia 1060 6gb or AMD RX580 should do for 1080p
16GB of RAM should be appropriate for a modern gaming system.
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Ok, you have made some weird choices.
Why a processor with an igpu? Why not a regular ryzen 1300x?
Why an expensive x470 board?
Crossfire is dead, just get a single card.
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Your right i should swap out for a third party, any suggestions.
heck i might by another one that i am using for my older 8350 build.
I would go with Noctua, But they are apparently even more expensive in Canada.
https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAB985BG2903
Also if the PSU is as old as the case I would consider replacing it.
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I'm from Rotterdam :D 15min drive from Alternate and a 15 min drive from Informatique.
The M.2 connector is basically 4 extra PCIe 3.0 lanes straight from the processor, there are a lot of options there.
Yes, but they're all SATA while I need SAS. SAS can handle the SATA protocol, but not the other way round.
Last time I was in Rotterdam was to see the Rolling Stones in 1983...
I was born 3 years later, I like the stones though.
This is the most modern board that has a SAS controller sadly, I think you are out of luck.
https://nl.hardware.info/product/264880/asrock-x99-extreme11/specificaties
This is the cheapest controller.
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I'm from Rotterdam :D 15min drive from Alternate and a 15 min drive from Informatique.
The M.2 connector is basically 4 extra PCIe 3.0 lanes straight from the processor, there are a lot of options there.
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The reason why I go for the socket 2066 X299 chipset is because it offers boards with ten SATA connectors. The rest (as far as I've seen) only offer either six or eight while I need twelve. I do have a two-drive QNAP NAS box with a max capacity of 16TB, but then I'll need a few days off to empty two 8TB hard drives I have so they can be formatted for use in the NAS.
Sure, I'll have a look at the new socket 1151/Z390 combo. If my current system doesn't croak before the release, that is.
I found an interesting adapter, sorry it is in Dutch but you get the idea :laugh:
https://www.allekabels.nl/m2-ssd/15535/1370104/m2-ngff-naar-4x-7-polig-sata-adapter.html
Replaces a nvme drive with 4 sata ports.
The Z390 with an 8 core looks interesting and cheaper than a x299 with the i7-7820X
The i7-7820X will be made obsolete by the s1151 octo-core.
I fully understand your problem, I had a x79 system for years to get extra SATA ports
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There is always a bottleneck and in games it should be the GPU.
You should indeed scratch the term, it only comes into play with i3's an C2Q or C2D and only the first generation i5s and i7s are somewhat of a bottleneck.
I've tested what would bottleneck my GTX970 and found that a i7-930 definitely was a bottleneck.
i7-990X, i5-2500k, i7-3770 and my Xeon 2680v2 where all OK.
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OK I have had enough of my old pc now building a AMD based Thread ripper 1950x with a ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme x399 mother board.
Has anyone used this cpu/mother board set up for creation kit? I am not building just this just for gaming use.
Any feed back would be appreciated
Thanks
If you are only going to game get an 2700x, Threadripper is for heavy number crunching.
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If you have a 1080p screen the GTX1080 would be a giant waste of money.
The 1080 is for 1440p or even 4k
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Not surprised by XP professional that is the worst windows by far.
Even if you manage to install it, it's unstable and most drivers are non-existent.
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Does anybody know if SAS drives could be used on modern X299 chipsets?
I know that's beside the question, but why? "Modern X299 chipsets" is an oxymoron; you're looking at 3 year old technology, repackaged with more cores.
Intel Z370 is better at less-recent games, AMD Threadripper at everything else. There might be a narrow niche where you need specific games at a certain level of performance, but not at their best, for the sake of still second-rate multithreading performance - but there's a lot fewer people actually inside that niche than people who think they are.
FWIW, Intel plans to release an 8-core 1151/Z390 chip later this year. If X299 was waiting for something to completely obsolete it, this is it. It will easily outperform 10-core and match 12-core X299 chips in productivity, wipe the floor with them in games. Still won't match Threadripper, but the latter is there and it's finally competitive in games as well. Unless you're one of the few people who will get the 16-18 core version, the X299 isn't worth bothering with.
Even Ryzen 2 is an option, they are very close to coffee lake clock for clock. Threadripper seems an awesome platform with lots of pcie lanes.
Also you have to be careful with x299 boards, some don't have the proper vrm's to support the higher end processors.
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Your current motherboard is very rare to include a SAS controller I don't think you are going to find a consumer board that has them.
But x299 has plenty of PCIe lanes so you could just get a PCIe SAS controller card and not lose any of your hard drives.
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I have not looked at benchmarks, stress tests or what really matters regarding RAM in the past 15 years. It seems the speeds as far as megahertz have increased tremendously, but when I look at CAS timings.... they seem to be the same or even slower for many RAM providers. Has hardware changed that drastically that CAS timings don't really act like a directly proportional equality to mhz as now the CPU's cache's are so much larger along with now GPUS are freaking monsters. I'd imagine northbridges and southbridges now have large and fast caches as well? Is the answer more complex than that and everything is more integrated so its not as much of an issue? Just wondering if someone had an easy answer?
I guess that, while frequencies went up, manufacturers have never found a way to get latency lower for those frequencies. Because, it's not just a matter of getting latency as low as possible; it's a matter of getting it as low as possible for the frequency in use.
I found this article as I was also wandering why latency goes up with RAM speeds.
If I dig trough my RAM pile I see some DDR-400 with a tight 3-3-3 timing
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On the higher settings at 1080p you should expect these frame rates.
I would't upgrade DDR3 any more, save your money for when you have to upgrade your entire system.
Which motherboard do you have and are you sure it doesn't throttle the 8350
970 pro gamer aura i think its called. It came recommended from newegg when i bought the cpu.
The board is indeed a good match for the 8350.
I think 40 FPS for a 1050ti would be expected at higher 1080p settings on Witcher 3
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I think you should go for medium settings on 4K with a GTX 1070