Well, i have tried everything within my knowledge to get custom races to work with hair mods, such as apachii or fallout3/oblivion hairpack, but, no matter which custom race i try, i can't seem to get them to show up with the two custom races i use, i have tried ticking/unticking the hair files, running with apachii checked and unchecked, doing the hokey pokey in hopes of turning things around and getting it to work, redoing my mod load order, sacrificing goats etc. I have a huge arsenal of mods, and both dawnguard and hearthfire, here is a list, in load order Mods - ENB - with colorful enb texture pack combiner with all the requirements minus a few optionals apachiihair 1.4 apachii females apachii males bathing beauty's luxury suite destructable bottles BBLS(spouses) the black sacrament armor cloaks of skyrim shredded triss armor mystic tails daggercraft diamond weapon smithing fox 14 armor hentai's nightmare and jamella armor kaw's cat disguise lilith's cleaver LOLILABS lustmord vampire nightasy's bondage armor osare gothic lolita r18pn's leere and ritter amor's normal triss set (raven set) rings of potions scarves of skyrim tona's oblivion scarves bandolier bbls luxury sweet etension bbls- apachii hair for suite residents Leveler's tower masters of death nonessentail killable children xvisoion chidlren children of the sky ASX spells edition fallout 3 hair oblivion hair eye colors with new style eyelashes ff mithra viera races ultimate follower overhual with both patches for dawngaurd and hearthfire my home is your home ashen followers bbls followers& houscarl thingy alternate start live another life enhanced character edit extended slider colors green water fix barenziah quest markers xp32's new animation pack hearthfire cheat chests osare's school uniform&dress armor calypse animal ears soulmaster unlimited edition get over here! bow better males CBBE A quality world map chsbhc-bbp univision face coverwoman look 2 more freckles Glosstech Kunoichii female voice pretty female sit and idles SKYUI This seems to be all i am using, now, everything else in the game is working fine, the animations ect, but when i start a NEW file, and try to select either the children of the sky race or miqote race's, no matter if i have apachii ticked or unticked, it does not show up in character creation.. it works just fine either way ticked or unticked with vanilla races, but with custom races it just won't..i tried shoracemenu-ing to see if it was one of those types of things, but it only seems to freeze up my entire computer and eventually crash.. any help appreciated, the goats shall appreciate it too ;) ~Ryoichui