UMMM...eh like, I first had to check your profile to see what age you were.. and you left no clue there.. Then I read further down, I see Dezi beat me to it, but I will echo it ,loving, liking and touching oneself is ne'er inappropriate ..la The priests lied, you don't go blind..lol As Dez said, only in public is it ever inappropiate..!!!! *I like* that we bunch here, we're basically pretty open, and 'naughty' at times too, as Dani put it..eh... :wink: Dont worry. I am not a young adolescent teenager. But I am not an old man either.