Cliffdraco

Sorry for the late reply, and no, they don't. Whether I look at them or not doesn't change it, and being that I'm inexperienced, I don't understand the impact of it- it's usually just when I'm near them at all, pretty much ever. I'm going to attempt to run FNIS again, and then see if I can get the CTD from skeevers / foxes once again, I'll edit this when it's done. Apologies for my inexperience. P.S., I do have immersive creatures / SIC Addon, but I've only recently started having this issue. P.P.S. I went ahead and tested it, running into slightly different issues, although I believe it is being caused by something else, here's the log though. [11/21/2018 - 06:37:30PM] [CF][Creature] Started on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]] with race/skin ["skeever" [Race <SkeeverWhiteRace (000C3EDF)>]]["" [Armor < (130BF76C)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:30PM] [CF][Creature] Update being forced on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]]; havingSex=False savedOverrideArousal=0 arousalSource=0[11/21/2018 - 06:37:30PM] [CF][Creature] ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]] unaroused[11/21/2018 - 06:37:30PM] [CF][Creature] Equipping normal armour on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]]; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["Deer" [Actor < (000DC8E4)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["rabbit" [Actor < (0010598A)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Framework] Deactivated actor ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["Deer" [Actor < (000DC8E4)>]]; not active[11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Framework] Deactivated actor ["rabbit" [Actor < (0010598A)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]] and doing nothing else[11/21/2018 - 06:37:32PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for bandit got schlong index 0 size 4[11/21/2018 - 06:37:33PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Deer" [Actor < (000DC8E4)>]] and doing nothing else[11/21/2018 - 06:37:33PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["rabbit" [Actor < (0010598A)>]] and doing nothing else[11/21/2018 - 06:37:33PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for Talsgar the Wanderer got schlong index 0 size 2[11/21/2018 - 06:37:33PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for bandit got schlong index 0 size 5[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] ERROR: Unable to call GetTargetActor - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[None].mystyWard.GetTargetActor() - "<native>" Line ?[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 17[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetAV() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 19[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"stack:[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 19[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] ERROR: Cannot call RestoreAV() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 20[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] ERROR: Cannot call GetAV() on a None object, aborting function callstack:[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 21[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"stack:[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 21[11/21/2018 - 06:37:37PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[None].mystyWard.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?[None].mystyWard.OnUpdate() - "mystyWard.psc" Line 23 ---------------- Second gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC8E2)>]] unaroused[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC8E2)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC8E3)>]] unaroused[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["Skeleton" [defaultFakeRezSpell < (000D9652)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["rabbit" [Actor < (0010598A)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["rabbit" [Actor < (00105988)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:00PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["Skeleton" [defaultFakeRezSpell < (000D9653)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:01PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC8E3)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:01PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["Skeleton" [defaultFakeRezSpell < (131AAD0A)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:01PM] [CF][Creature] Not equipping normal armour on ["Skeleton" [defaultFakeRezSpell < (131AAD09)>]]; there is no normal armour; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:05PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Lesser Slaughterfish" [Actor < (001060D8)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Slaughterfish" [Race <SlaughterfishRace (00013203)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (132E89DE)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:18PM] VM is freezing...[11/21/2018 - 06:43:18PM] VM is frozen[11/21/2018 - 06:43:18PM] Saving game...[11/21/2018 - 06:43:18PM] VM is thawing...[11/21/2018 - 06:43:19PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["mudcrab" [Actor < (000DC57C)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["mudcrab" [Race <MudcrabRace (000BA545)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (1354A897)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:25PM] [CF][Framework] Activating actor ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:25PM] [CF][Creature] Started on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]] with race/skin ["skeever" [Race <SkeeverWhiteRace (000C3EDF)>]]["" [Armor < (130BF76C)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:26PM] [CF][Creature] Update being forced on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]]; havingSex=False savedOverrideArousal=0 arousalSource=0[11/21/2018 - 06:43:26PM] [CF][Creature] ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]] unaroused[11/21/2018 - 06:43:26PM] [CF][Creature] Equipping normal armour on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (000DC57A)>]]; gender=1[11/21/2018 - 06:43:27PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for bandit got schlong index 0 size 2[11/21/2018 - 06:43:34PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["rabbit" [Actor < (00105988)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:34PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:34PM] [CF][Framework] Deactivated actor ["rabbit" [Actor < (00105988)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:34PM] [CF][Framework] Deactivated actor ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]][11/21/2018 - 06:43:35PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["rabbit" [Actor < (00105988)>]] and doing nothing else[11/21/2018 - 06:43:35PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["skeever" [lvlpredatorscript < (00081CEF)>]] and doing nothing else[11/21/2018 - 06:43:38PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for Talsgar the Wanderer got schlong index 0 size 7[11/21/2018 - 06:43:38PM] SOS Actor Schlongify: new schlong for bandit got schlong index 0 size 9[11/21/2018 - 06:43:38PM] FNIS aa SetAnimGroup mod: FNIS Sexy Move Actor: [ActorBase < (0002C930)>] group: _mt base: 19 number: 6[11/21/2018 - 06:43:38PM] FNIS aa SetAnimGroup mod: FNIS Sexy Move Actor: [ActorBase < (00013BB0)>] group: _mt base: 19 number: 4 Edit: Removed MNC and BDSIC Addon - got this. [Mounted] Loaded: 100%[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Nipple Piercings] Registered. Event #12[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Nipple Piercings] Loaded: 55%[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Vibration] Registered. Event #21[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Vibration] Loaded: 25%[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [struggle] Registered. Event #19[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [struggle] Loaded: 25%[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Periodic Shocks] Registered. Event #24[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: [Periodic Shocks] Loaded: 25%[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] InitWidgetLoader()[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: ZadNpc::DoRegister(1.472382)[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: RepopulateNpcs()[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] SpousesEnhanced outfit drawer validation complete...[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] *****************************************************************************[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] Spouses Enhanced compat check DONE.[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] *****************************************************************************[11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [sic_configmenuscript <SIC_ConfigMenuQuest (130C4C3A)>]: Loaded user settings. [11/22/2018 - 02:11:39PM] [Zad]: Set slot mask to [338165760]: 338165760[11/22/2018 - 02:11:40PM] ERROR: Unable to call Delete - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[item 1 in container (00000014)].zadHiderScript.Delete() - "<native>" Line ?[item 1 in container (00000014)].zadHiderScript.OnContainerChanged() - "zadHiderScript.psc" Line 5[11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["bandit" [Actor < (00080B81)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["bandit" [Actor < (FF001063)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Orc" [Race <OrcRace (00013747)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Whiterun Guard" [Actor < (0001B5E3)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Nord" [Race <NordRace (00013746)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Whiterun Guard" [Actor < (0001B5DF)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Nord" [Race <NordRace (00013746)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["bandit" [Actor < (000812FD)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["IMPERIAL" [Race <ImperialRace (00013744)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["bandit" [Actor < (FF000F53)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Orc" [Race <OrcRace (00013747)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]][11/22/2018 - 02:11:41PM] [CF][Creature Apply] Not activating ["Talsgar the Wanderer" [WETalsgarTheWandererDeathScript < (FF000F65)>]]; creature isn't registered; race=["Nord" [Race <NordRace (00013746)>]] skin=["" [Armor < (00000D64)>]]

I'm actually having the same issue, but due to Foxes. ["wolf" [Actor < (FF0011E3)>]][11/20/2018 - 04:36:00PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["Sabre Cat" [Actor < (00082816)>]]; restarting[11/20/2018 - 04:36:00PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["Fox" [Actor < (00107D5B)>]][11/20/2018 - 04:36:00PM] ERROR: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:[None].CFEffectCreature.RegisterForSingleUpdate() - "<native>" Line ?[None].CFEffectCreature.OnUpdate() - "CFEffectCreature.psc" Line 199[11/20/2018 - 04:36:00PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["Frostbite Spider" [lvlpredatorscript < (000827EE)>]][11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["Frostbite Spider" [lvlpredatorscript < (000827EE)>]]; restarting[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Finished on ["Spriggan" [Actor < (FF0011EE)>]][11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["wolf" [Actor < (FF0011E3)>]]; restarting[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (00082812)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["wolf" [lvlpredatorscript < (00082814)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["wolf" [Actor < (FF0011E3)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["Fox" [Actor < (00107D5B)>]]; restarting[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Sabre Cat" [Actor < (00082816)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Deer" [Actor < (0004486D)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Framework] Didn't deactivate actor ["Spriggan" [Actor < (FF0011EE)>]]; restarting[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Frostbite Spider" [lvlpredatorscript < (000827EE)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:01PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Spriggan" [Actor < (FF0011EE)>]] and doing nothing else[11/20/2018 - 04:36:02PM] [CF][Creature] Removing both API armours from ["Fox" [Actor < (00107D5B)>]] and doing nothing else Still not quite sure as to 'how' to fix this. I can't think of any mod I have that may interfere with Foxes, either.