Killianmcc

Hey, I'm trying out a couple of different mods/settings for Skyrim and for one reason or another my Skyrim launcher/configurations screen stops working on start-up now. This isn't a problem as I usually skip this step by running from NMM straight into the game. Only problem I have is I want to change the game detail (e.g. Ultra, High etc.). Any other way I can do this without the launcher, either through one of the INI files or something? Thanks! Killian

You didn't "Undelete and Disable Records" for the ones BOSS stated had UDRs? If not, you didn't fix them. BOSS knows if you've cleaned a mod by it's CRC hash. UDRs don't change the filesize or the CRC so once you've cleaned the ITMs it thinks you've done everything. Oh right. I remember which mods had the UDRs. Much risk of something something going wrong if I just do "Undelete and Disable Records" to them?

I don't really know for sure. I honestly can't think of a situation where one would be required, though I know that mods existed like this for Oblivion. I don't know of a single mod for Skyrim that is this way. Good to know, so I'll just keep doing it the way I did it above :D Thanks for your help dude. Made cleaning your mods easier for at least one person!

Great summary, thanks! And just to be sure Gopher said there are some cases were an ITM is intended but that is incredibly rare and even still bad modding on the authors part, correct?

Ok so bearing in mind I've never used TESEdit, how hard is it to clean? Watching Gopher's youtube tutorial atm (/watch?v=UOQO2S6HDBw). Thanks for the advice incidentally! It takes about two minutes per plugin and is all of 3 right clicks and 3 left clicks. Be sure to keep backups of any plugin you clean (especially the files from Bethesda) in-case any unforeseen problems pop up or TES5Edit's cleaning algorithm gets updated in the future. You may also want to make your Bethesda provided files read-only after cleaning them to prevent Steam from overwriting the cleaned versions should you ever need to verify the integrity of your game cache. Hi stars2heaven, thanks for the reply. Think I've got it sorted (see my above post). Thing that worried me most was when I wanted to clean Update.esm, it is obviously a massive mod that had a couple of 100 ITMs and a lot of UDRs which either meant trawling through each file within it individually or doing what I did. Which is the right method? Am I just fortunate that my method worked and there's some cases where it wouldn't or is it the correct way of cleaning (for my issues at least) or do I still have problems in my files that I have covered up cosmetically and now BOSS simply can't see them? :P

Ok so I followed the guide (still not exactly understanding though), but I simply did 'Apply for Cleaning' and 'Remove "Identical to Master" Records' in TESEdit to all the mods I received Dirty Edits for and now I'm not getting any of them back from BOSS and Skyrim is running fine. No clue if I actually dealt with the ITMs or UDRs properly. Have I? :P I'm hoping this will be a useful guide to anyone receiving errors from BOSS and isn't quite sure of how to deal with them.

Ok so bearing in mind I've never used TESEdit, how hard is it to clean? Watching Gopher's youtube tutorial atm (/watch?v=UOQO2S6HDBw). Thanks for the advice incidentally!

Sorry if I'm misunderstanding. All of the returns from the BOSS Log are for ESM files, so what else could be needing cleaning? :P Below are all the Dirty Edit Warnings I received, is there a particular way I know which I should clean and which I should leave? Immersive Weapons.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}} Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) Update.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) Dawnguard.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} HearthFires.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide)

Hey Jeir, Thanks for the reply. Followed your suggestions about 4! Regards 1, I'm surprised a mod as well known and as recent as Climates Of Tamriel would have Dirty Edits. I mean I'm hardly the first person to run over it with BOSS right? :/ Don't mind doing the cleaning but I'm just worried I've missed something that I should have done beforehand. E.g. After reading your post I got the CoT Dawnguard Patch expecting that was the problem, but no difference.

Hey, I'm new to using the BOSS and was wondering about the log file that is returned to me. I've fixed quite a number of things it suggested (e.g. getting patches for certain mods). There's a couple of Warnings that I was hoping to find out a bit on. I've done a bit of research but thought I'd condense my questions here and also get a bit of analysis on my Log file to boot. Details of my system below. 1. Dirty Edits - Should I be worried/Should I report? So I have a whole bunch of dirty edits throughout my log. As far as I can tell my only option would be to get the TES5Editor but cleaning is generally intended for the mod author, is this correct? So should I do something about them or are they ok to leave? Here's an example of two; Update.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 52 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) Dawnguard.esm Active Contains dirty edits: 602 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. (Cleaning guide) 2. Bash Tag Suggestions - Em wah? Couldn't find any info about these. Have a few of them in my log. Anything I need to do? Example of two; Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}} 3. Notes - Always there? Are Notes always there? As in, they aren't prompting an issue? Same goes with 'Requires:' actually. Examples; Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp Active Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest renamed version, Fantasy Music Full Replace.esp or Fantasy Music Non-Replace.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp Active Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp. 4. Warning: Unexpected Records - ?? Couldn't find much info on these either. Only appear with a couple of the entries of Headbomb's Better Sorting mod (not all). Should I correct them? If so, how would I go about it? Headbomb's Better Sorting - Books.esp Active Warning: This file contains unexpected (or out of order) records and should be removed. Headbomb's Better Sorting - Potions (Normal Weight).esp Active Warning: This file contains unexpected (or out of order) records and should be removed. System Details; Windows 8 64X NMM .34 BOSS 2.1.1 Skyrim 1.8.1 The Wilds ENB Also using Digger's Texture Pack Combiner - http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/20801/# Any thoughts and help would be really appreciated! Cheers, Killian

Wow, seems really good. Got extra 10-20 frames while moving! Good find. Unfortunately I'm still really slowing down using ENB which is a shame.

Hmm looks promising. Will give it a go! Not sure how capable my GPU is, it is an Nvidia Geforce 445M but couldn't hurt to try. Will report back.

I was wondering about what performance/graphic mods you guys would recommend to add to Skyrim for someone who's pretty much hit their cap on frame rate, or even methods of improving frame rate! I'm working off a laptop (albeit a decent one, Win 7, i7, 6gig RAM) and can hit ultra settings but was wondering if I might have a methods available to further improve my graphics. I was messing about with mods and put on SSAO in Fast Mode and was blown away by the graphics. However my game FR sank to below 15... So would love to try out anything you guys recommend. At the moment I'm using Realistic Lighting with Customisation, No More Blocky Faces and Lanterns of Skyrim all of which didn't seem to shoot down my frames but made the game look much nicer. Regards, Killian