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OK good, thought they were mods but actually the mods for them are for new textures, thanks so much cheers

Thank you, one last question, about 12 months ago I did a complete new install of FO4 followed all the instructions. However after reinstalling FO4 from Steam without any mods installed, some mods seemed to arrive as in game, one was a Pulowski preservation chamber ( a blue vertical tube with access door) I have never been able to get rid of this, and I am thinking that steam is causing this issue. I say this because all game saves were deleted, all game files entirely and mods including user docs etc. What do you think this could be?

OK got it, so how do I clean with Fo4 Edit I have never used it?

Hi AugustaCalidia so I ran the game played through until I had to re-enter cabots house and the game locked up onto a black screen with a continuing small green circle which looks like it was loading, this I could do nothing with so had to alt ctrl edit to close it. I opened nexus mods checked the plugins and sought to find if anything was dirty under the flags toggle, it found that armorkeywords.esm and armorsmith extended.esm and all the following DLCs Coast, Nuka World, workshop 01,02 and 03 are all dirty. I am not sure what to do or how to do anything with these because cleaning a DLC seems odd. Do you have any suggestions

The game starts now, no crashing as yet, seems all good so I think we can say its all fixed hey, thanks for your support cheers

Not sure about the AE option, I will check through my mods to see if they have it, I will try to load my game and see what happens cheers

yes did it and homemaker.esm is now there, I have had some problems with armorsmith extended, basically when I use it in game it either freezes or crashes the game, I have simply avoided using it until recently so I reinstalled it just like homemaker. Can you see anything wrong with armorsmith?? cheers

Yes it is missing from plugins and the only thing for home maker is in mods called homemaker 1.73, no warnings from vortex, guess I should reinstall homemaker 1.73 because I read it has the homemaker.esm file init what do you think?

homemaker 1.73 is in my mods list I can see it in vortex so homemaker is installed

The game FO4 has now crashed, I know it would be a mod just not sure how to find it, appreciate your help. Hope I attached all the files either way I am inserting the load order info here Please let me know what you think and how I can change the load order if needed in vortex cheers

Cheers good Idea

Thanks, that seems a slow way to go about it. If its a mod causing it, seems to be related to armor bench and armorsmith bench guess I need to work out if I need both because that might be the problem? cheers

pls check my mods and load order if I have problems cheers :ohmy: Loadorder.txt # Automatically generated by VortexFallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmWater Tower.eslArmorKeywords.esmHomemaker.esmAzarPonytailHairstyles.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espCBBE.espLooksMenu.espAdvSettleTurretSet.espAkaSinger.espAkaSingersWardrobe.espcartman1975_concrete-glass.espClimate-Lite.espCROSS_CharredVaultSuit.espDavesPoses.espDD_All_the_COncrete.espHomemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.espMonnoBikini.espWater Tower.espArmorsmith Extended.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.espBetterSettlersMostlyFemale.espCheatTerminal.espHACS Feathered Dress.espArmorsmith All DLCs Patch.espDickys Pinup Outfit.espHomemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.espRU556.espsarahRageArmor.espTheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.espVtawJumpsuit.espVtawWardrobe1.espVtawWardrobe2.espVtawWardrobe4.espwinryTop.espWonderWoman.espApron.espAradia Secretary.espGeraniumBikini.espHospital Nurse.espKillBill.espSexyVest.esp Plugins List.txt # Automatically generated by Vortex*Water Tower.esl*ArmorKeywords.esm*Homemaker.esm*AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp*BetterSettlersNoLollygagging.esp*CBBE.esp*LooksMenu.esp*AdvSettleTurretSet.esp*AkaSinger.esp*AkaSingersWardrobe.esp*cartman1975_concrete-glass.esp*Climate-Lite.esp*CROSS_CharredVaultSuit.esp*DavesPoses.esp*DD_All_the_COncrete.esp*Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp*MonnoBikini.esp*Water Tower.esp*Armorsmith Extended.esp*Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp*BetterSettlers.esp*BetterSettlersCleanFacePack.esp*BetterSettlersCCAPack2.0.esp*BetterSettlersMostlyFemale.esp*CheatTerminal.esp*HACS Feathered Dress.esp*Armorsmith All DLCs Patch.esp*Dickys Pinup Outfit.esp*Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp*RU556.esp*sarahRageArmor.esp*TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp*VtawJumpsuit.esp*VtawWardrobe1.esp*VtawWardrobe2.esp*VtawWardrobe4.esp*winryTop.esp*WonderWoman.esp*Apron.esp*Aradia Secretary.esp*GeraniumBikini.esp*Hospital Nurse.esp*KillBill.esp*SexyVest.esp

Is there a way of finding anything that would cause the game to crash in vortex, its clearly a mod I am really tired of addressing conflicts over and over is there a better way? Cheers R