:dance: Thank you all for your replies! I was really frustated and searched at many forums, but I couldn't find the fix. until favoredsoul post this one: "If the mesh is black, its probably because vertex colors is set to No. That's the usual cause. If you update your Niftools to the latest version, the issue has been fixed." When I ctrl+f4 the actor in the creation kit. The Facegen data file constructed with the creation kit had the vertex colors turned off I manualy turned it on now and I will go look for the latest version of nifskope, Tnq tnq