AlShaitan

I encountered one mod author, who had some minor efficiency mod. it was a requirement to a requirement from my mod list. I clicked download and got this insane list of requirements. I mean it was absolutely laughable. It was a complete mod list on it's own! So I check the description and there's the mod author and other users in the posts going "Oh my god stop being stupid THEY AREN'T ALL REQUIRED! read the this and that". Well I couldn't find the this and that and I had about 50 more mods I needed to install at this point not counting further dependencies. But here I am, being called a moron (again) because a mod author has decided that the requirements is a great and user friendly place to list a mix of "Must have" and "these could be cool with my mod but aren't needed" mods. This incidentally, was when I just gave up and wrote this post. I do think Bethesda are absolutely partially to blame though. SSE, AE, forced AE patch. Creator club. Skyrim modding was fine for the original. A few complicated mods, but overall pretty straight forward. Easy mods on Workshop. A few more complex ones only available via Nexus. Now it's become a broken, nightmarish mess of confusion, Creators club content dependencies, patreon paid mod as dependencies hidden inside collections, version confusion and no one mod being in fact one mod but a fragmented portion of a massive mod list that can't work alone.

Not sure what DP changes refer to, but from a business perspective. Skyrim Modding drives a great deal of traffic to Nexus and if you created a "newb friendly" collection section. Where collections had to be white-listed by admins as GENUINELY one-click-installs with the Nexus (if you have premium) then I think premium sales would go up. Especially if you got some PR around it. This in turn might drive mod authors to want to create for that category. I also think it should be concerning, that many peoples first experience of the Nexus is probably the Skyrim community which is not exactly the most welcoming, new-user friendly community on the site.

I work for one of the largest software companies on earth, on the business end, to be sure. But I work with Enterprise Software implementations. But here's the thing, when I get home and I sit down with my entertainment to relax. I don't want to spend hours figuring out how to make software work. This is entertainment and for those of us who just want entertainment, Skyrim modding is dead. It's over, it just is. I'm not changing the culture, the eco-system is too far gone even if people wanted it to change I suspect. Skyrim is by far the shittiest game to mod in my entire collection. I'm just installing Battle Brothers now, and modding that game is an absolute breeze. Total conversion? No problem, It'll take me a few minutes. Want to slap on ten different mods? Again, zero issue. Mount and Blade Bannerlord? An absolute zinch, whether total conversion or just 20-30 random mods it's EZ. X-Com? Again, zero damn issue, just slap in the mod, bada-bing, bada-boom it works For the end user, who hasn't been immersed in Skyrim modding as a separate hobby for the last ten years, Skyrim modding as it stands today is a field of abject misery, getting told you're a f*#@ing moron for not wanting to spend your limited, worn out free time reading technical documentation (even before you ask, it's in the damn mod descriptions. It's so common, mod authors pre-empt it in their descriptions that you're an idiot for even THINKING about asking for something that's in the technical documentation of mod 73 out of 137!). I think a lot of people have been too immersed in the Skyrim modding community, and have forgotten that non-community members pop in to mod from time to time. If you want a club of super-enthusiasts creating super-enthusiast mods that's cool. But that means it is dead to the rest of us. And that's okay, I guess. Mod authors don't owe me anything, but they should stop pretending it isn't a convoluted, technical mess only approachable for people willing to adopt Skyrim modding as a hobby. I am not, so I'm just going to move on from Skyrim (about time really, it outlived my marriage twice over) and play and mod other games with less convoluted less toxic modding communities.

Holy hell how do you people not see how damn toxic you are? Member since 2012. First post in 12 years. Trolling? That's one long con there buddy. Seriously, the Skyrim modding community is probably the most toxic thing I've interacted with on the internet since I was in my teens.

I am honestly just looking for a few mods, that will be as easy as possible to install which makes the game look better, adds laughably big boobs everywhere that look as good as possible, with scanty clothing. And any simple to install mods that improve gameplay (add quests, make the mechanics interesting). I am 100% only looking for super simple, don't have to read the readme on the mod or dependencies simple to install mods and will sacrifice any mods that do. I also really, really wish there was a mod collection category where your mod collection either met this criteria or was not allowed in that category.

I'd love that, but I honestly strongly suspect I'll encounter the same issues without the brain-bandwidth to sit down and get tweaking (seeing as how I have no experience at all, tweaking around with Skyrim mods unlike many of the people posting on here who seem to forget it's pretty tricky when you weren't gradually introduced and had a talent/enjoyment of it to begin with). In either case, appreciate the productive response. There's a really toxic culture among a lot of the mod communities in the Skyrim category when it comes towards people who just want to slap on some mods and go, unfortunately. While I can see where that attitude comes from, it is completely devoid of empathy for where the "newbs" come from.

Collections would work great. IF there were some stringet requirments/categories. Such as for example..."one-click-install" where you did indeed, only need the mods from this site. Mods from this site without needing to config. Or if simple config options could be built into the mod manager. The supporter fee would be an absolute PITTANCE to pay to automate that and I would do it in a second. Hell the only thing stopping me from paying just to support the site, is the bitter fact that the very service that's meant to be automated from it, wouldn't work. Mod collections in my opinion, are broken for Skyrim due to the complete absence of requirments or categories with requirments that make them, actually be collections. And not just a glorified link list of mods you need to manually install. It's a fantastic idea, which probably works great for some games but as it stands completely fails for Skyrim

14.000+ posts on the modding forum and your statement is "Git gud" in effect. This is pretty much spot on how the modding community here on Nexus mods treats people and why it's pointless for me and people like me to bother with trying to mod Skyrim anymore.

So, spend hours going through which mods are/are not complex by manually checking dependencies, reading documentation...you're not wrong, but that's also why it's dead for anyone remotely casual about it. Things die, it's okay. I'm just here to state that I surrender, it's dead. There is no simple way. There is no "simple" collection, certainly none that creates my vision of Skyrim.

I've just finished a very, very brutal quarter at work and I decided to take a week off to recover my last few braincells. In addition to some walks, quality time with the GF and reading I had one very, very simple dream for this break. I was going to install Skyrim (whichever edition had the most mods, Special Edition with mandatory AE patch it seems) and make sure the world was populated by women with laughably large breasts and scanty clothing. I was then going to add a bunch of quests, NPC's and some game mechanic tweaks, and go forth and bash skulls while surrounded by large boobies. But oh boy, was I wrong. Install it yourself? Dependencies upon dependencies. Wabbajack? 3.000 mods you have to download manually because you don't have nexus plus and oh btw, you will need to read aproximately 200 readmes, get some mods outside of wabbajack (Patreon and creator club) and tweak a million settings yourself. Nexus? Literally the same as Wabbajack. Well just pay for premium then! It's worth it! And I agree 100% It would be SO WORTH it if the mod packs were actually automatically installed and functional. But they aren't. And paying that small price, only to have it still not work just seems laughable. Google up help on the issues or check comment sections? "Oh my god, you're so stupid! IT'S SIMPLE read the readme! Stop asking me stupid questions, just follow the 15 steps in the attached documentation dumbass!" <--for LITERALLY 100+ depencies or so just to get large breasts and scanty outfits. I get it. If modding is your hobby, if you LOVE getting in deep with technical documentation, it's probably quite simple to spend ten hours having fun tweaking and fiddling with things. But I am just a very, very tired middle aged man in a non-technical job with learning disabilities who'd rather die in a literal fire than spend ten hours going through documentation and tweaking settings. The concept of modpacks is brilliant. But the fact that I can't pay for Nexus premium, click one button and have it downloaded, setup and working completely ruins it. "Well lower your expectations than, these mods are complicated!" I would, but that would require spending ten hours going through documentation to find a mod combo that ISN'T complicated because god knows, none of the supposedly simple packs seem to meet those criteria. In short, I surrender, I give up. After years and years of adding mods from the workshop in steam, the move to SSE and places like Nexus has killed Skyrim modding for Average Joe dumbass like myself and Skyrim thus has finally died for me and many others, may that zombie of a game finally rest in peace.