Just so no-one jumps in with the obvious answer, yep I'm running TES 5 Edit from within MO2. In fact it works fine when switched to my Skyrim LE profile, I'm just having a problem with SE. One more clue, everything else works fine, Loot, Bodyslide etc etc, all work from the buttons in MO2, it's just TES5 not showing the ESPs. Can anyone throw a clue? I just want to clean the dirty files that Bethesda can't be bothered cleaning before they sell .... grrrr :smile: I knew I should have stayed with LE, it's always been so kind to me whereas SE has been a pain in the butt whenever I try to use it in one way or another. I just thought I'd give it one more chance to operate like it should do hahaha .... (hmm will that ever happen me wonders?) Thank you kind people, solve this and you all get a nice kiss from me, two if you're a pretty wee lass. Kara x (a bonus kiss to be going on with)