Currently playing the mage quest, Labyrithian. Reached a point where quick saving, or regular saving would CTD, i cant even load older saves when im there, but i can i load them from the main menu. Interestingly, i can coc to riverwood and then save the game without any problems. What is the issue here? http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=324794 -papyrus Load order. P.s. I removed the missing esp after the crashes started. I loaded the last save before the quicksave of CTD's , it is 11 minutes prior to the quicksave, i can load and save without any problems on that save. I loaded the last save before the quick save and saved it again, to see if it works, right, but i cant load that save game i just saved, but i can load the original. -Update- Crashed 3 times in a row when trying to load the game i had just saved, loaded fine on the 4th attempt. - Why is the game so unstable all of a sudden? Could it be that a mod is suddenly causing all new save games to get f*#@ed? I uninstalled Sexlab Defeat and Death Alternative some time ago, but it started crashing some time after uninstalling them, so i think that is not the issue. Also, i enabled and re enabled some of the mods, but that shouldnt cause problems either. Recently sorted the load order with loot. Could it have made the load order worse? Tried loading the game i saved after loading the Quicksave of CTD and then using coc riverwood, to save it in a place, that is not labyrithian, loaded that save 3 times without a single crash, resaved that same save game 3 times and then loaded the saves i just created all without a single crash. http://www.loverslab.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_id=324898 - papyrus The problem seems to be tied to labyrithian somehow Cant figure out how. Going to try running trough the whole quest without saving and saving after its done, RIP my immersion and nerves. So much for enjoying my climb to becoming the arch-mage for the first time. The game has become quite unstable as of late, havent really changed anything, just have been playing quite alot. Save games weight around 11mb, quicksave is 11.8 mb On a side note What the f*#@? So, i didnt fix the issue, went to sleep, this morning i wake up, try to launch my skyrim and it crashes before i can open the game. What? Okay, i had MSI afterburner and Resource monitor running in the background, was gonna look how hard it is for my PC to breathe when im in labyrithian, i guess the MSI overlay was causing skyrim to crash before i can open the game. *coppied from loverslab* - http://www.loverslab.com/topic/70439-ctd-when-saving-or-loading/