standalone09
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What do you think can we objectively prove that being gay is wrong (in the same way you can prove rape/pedophilia is wrong)?
My opinion:
Here is an objective argument explaining why homosexual (sexual) behavior is improper/unacceptable
The sexual system provides a set of facts about features and functions associated with the sexual system. If we wish to objectively determine how the sexual system is intended to be used, we must examine the facts indicated by the sexual system itself.
The sexual system comprises physiological (organs, glands, hormones/chemicals and corresponding functions) and psychological components (attraction, emotions, etc). The physiological and psychological components are expected to be consistent and compatible with each other. Therefore, we can say the sexual system is expected to be a harmonious sexual system. If a sexual behavior introduces incompatibility, we identify the particular sexual behavior as improper for the sexual system (i.E., not based on opinion but based on the facts indicated by the sexual system).
The same is true for the digestive system. In particular, we have, included within the digestive system, a physiological component to process food that we eat. With respect to the psychological aspects of the digestive system, we naturally have periodic desires to eat “real” food (which is targeted by the physiological digestive system) and some foods more than others. Furthermore, we don’t naturally desire “unreal” food such as paper when we are hungry.
Considering the sexual system, a number of conclusions can be made.
Fact1: The sexual system “indicates” that certain organs are sexual (genital) organs and certain other organs are non-sexual organs.
Fact 2: The sexual system indicates that the normal expected sexual target is an ADULT, HUMAN of the OPPOSITE SEX.
The objective conclusion is that the sexual system indicates that homosexual behavior is not a proper, expected or acceptable sexual behavior for the human sexual system. This same criterion in fact 2 allows us to reject other unacceptable forms or sexual behaviors.
In fact, we can generalize and say both the attraction and the sexual behavior is unacceptable for the human sexual system.
The sexual system tells us that a child is neither sexually developed physically nor psychologically for sex. Therefore, a child is not a logical sexual target for an adult. Therefore, we objectively conclude that pedophilia is improper and unacceptable sexual behavior or attraction (even before the behavior). -
Oh man i knew it wasnt that hard, Thank you so much for your help! :)
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anybody? :/// xD
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So i know how to replace the normal vanilla weapons in skyrim for example the Iron Longsword which has the path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Skyrim\Data\meshes\weapons\iron
but when we look into the Skyrim - Meshes.bsa and we want to find Amren´s Family Sword for example there is no path for it.
Im guessing its because it uses the default iron sword mesh and therefore the path from above is correct anyways.
So how would we go on and replace unique weapons that use normal meshes?
Thank you for your help! :smile:
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Isn´t Society just like a bunch of Chicken?
http://www.moehren-guerilla.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/legehennen.jpg
"Guys they will kill us we have to do something!" chicken A.
"Oh comon if thats true why are they giving us food??? and a roof above our head´s??? You are crazy..." chicken B.
"But..." chicken A.
"Yeah chicken A. was always kinda weird..." chicken C.
http://ericmackonline.com/ICA/BLOGS/emonline.nsf/dx/CookedChicken.jpg/$file/CookedChicken.jpg
The moral of the story... Mankind is basically in a cage... and Since we got used to it... we consider anything that is beyond "get a job, watch tv..." crazy,
not realising that we are the actual crazy one´s.
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It´s not just sex.... lol
oral sex, fapping, cumming out of window´s etc....
Everything in the public of course where i can make sure that everybody sees how gay i am and therefore tolerate my "habit´s" more likely. :D
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@Arcadiast
Your opinion is not the opinion of the world so yeah im sorry if you feel i "attacked" you in some way or not?
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But of course it´s not weird to insult somebody you friggin einstein?! omg... Dont wanna know in what cirumstances you grew up....
I was expecting another keyboard comment to be honest, was dissapointed :/ xD
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STOP SPAMMING......... lol
Seriously why do you hate me so much?? Are you depressed??? Frustrated??? Both???
I will just keep playing this game until you start crying or a mod ban´s your spamming butt from this thread :D
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Spam much? Insult me again maybe you will feel better now? lolololol
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#I have no idea what´s going on because im so smart #This is the worst thread #Must share my opinion though #Attention #Im better then you all (hence the insult)
where i come from we would call "this" particular case Selfmade Fail. :D
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excuse me but I do mind. One must be infantile to not to be able to differentia between a man and a cat. I certainly hope I have at least that "common sense". Now I could have chosen a different reply to that if I wanted to escalate a reply like this for example "and you seem to have problems with separating a debate from unsubstantial sarcastic comments" but how would that help?
Yet you continue this senseless discussion in which you try make me believe that some scientist can prove to me that im a monkey?
and Yes you still dont seem to be able to seperate a monkey and a human. (corrected cat to monkey... because you seem to get upset when i say that...)
I came up with the argument in the firm belief that it would help prove a point and I did definitely not plan to follow up with anything related to god, not only because it would make no sense but also because the forum very clearly states that religious debates are not allowed. I agree to this rule so you can be certain that in the course of this debate, I will not make any argument like that.
It did not prove a Point?
again, I do believe that I am a "normal" human being who wants to be an animal just as much as "the next guy". Besides, on what do you base this conclusion? By the way, I could have replied like this "and you seem to be desperate to prove that you are not an animal" but like the first time, neither would this help to further any constructive debate nor would it help me in any way.
No you dont since you are still telling me "human = monkey" :S
and i dont care what you "could" say, right? it would be nice to keep such thing´s out of the comment´s since English is not my native language and that way you are only making it harder for me to understand not to speak of the time you wasted typing that. :smile:
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When anyone intentionally tries to draw a connection between anything and Hitler, they are aiming to bring emotions, not reason into the conversation. This pretty much speaks volumes about the quality of their argument. The target of this connection is being demonized. It is in no way being debated and the idea that anyone would take such a situation as anything more than a hit piece is beyond me.
First of i did not understand at least 50% of what you wrote....
Now:
""The argument that Nazi ideology was strongly influenced by social Darwinist ideas is often found in historical and social science literature.[40] For example, the Jewish philosopher and historian Hannah Arendt analysed the historical development from a politically indifferent scientific Darwinism via social Darwinist ethics to racist ideology.[41]""
Would you Stop trying to blame me for that now? Damn... Never seen somebody trying so HARD though. xD
could that be.... Emotion... for me...? LOL
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Nobody is valuing anything you just seem to have problems seperating a man with a cat nevermind that...
just dont come up with "war tactics" please.... next thing you do will be telling me how God killed more folks then anybody else
including your dog or something like that....
you are really desperate about being an animal... have fun mate i will for sure :wink:
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Well why not People can get used to anything doesnt matter if its bad or good.
Just needs time or not.
hope i didnt get the question wrong lol :)
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To sum it up... you are saying if Tim and Frank think it´s ok to marry 6 year old girl´s it´s ok just because there are 2 of them?
Seriously this cant be your argument right?
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LET ME DO WHAT I WANT
Sure.As long as what you want doesn't harm me or anyone else.
Evolutionist´s dont say without a reason "everything is a big Coincidence"(which is bullshait) to "justify" stuff like hedonism, survival of the fittest etc...
since everything was just a "coincidence" there is no need to care about life either it just beomes a thing that we never learned to respect...... instead we live our live´s after this slogan that make´s me wanna puke everytime i read it..... "LIVE YOUR LIFE AND DONT THINK ABOUT TOMORROW"
In other words Dying as fast as possible get´s promoted.... coincidence right?
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You can think what you want that changes of course nothing with the fact that "normal/good" exist´s and disagreeing with that prove´s only that you want the darwinistic, hitler "its ok to kill the weak for the "good" of the fittest" ideology, because you gotta keep your conscience somewhat guilt free right.
Saying "normal doesnt exist" is the same as saying "LET ME DO WHAT I WANT" which obviously is not possible.
Or better you can do what you want but.... everything has consequences. :smile:
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Normal doesn't exist because everyone defines themselves as normal and they include those who act like them until that person either disagrees with them or does something in a maner they wouldn't do. Then they are strange or weird and thats pretty much universal. It has nothing to do with any thery or practice. It has to do with a persons selfimage.
Normal doesnt exist only for evolutionist´s, thats why there are so much friendly evolutionist organisation´s like the eugenics society which think its comletely "normal" to "eliminate" the weak :smile:
overall not having "normal" helps in certain action´s... right hitler? xD
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Sure normal exists.Normal is when mother and father take theyr child to a first class at school.
Normal is then marriage is for man and woman.That's the way mother nature intended.
That's normal.But someone is forcing gays upon society.That's not normal.
Like I said I don't care about gays.If you adult you do whatever you want if you don't harm
another people.It's your life and your choice how to spend it.You can have sex with dogs for all I care.
But I don't want to see it.
Not if you ask an evolutionist :D
Still how certain lifestyle´s are literally "FORCED" over people is ridiculous, Serbia i can tell you has big problems criminal´s everywhere corruption of 100% and many more but wait... they have the money to actually finance gay pride´s...
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Normal doesnt exist only for evolutionist´s, thats why there are so much friendly evolutionist organisation´s like the eugenics society which think its comletely "normal" to "eliminate" the weak :smile:
overall not having "normal" helps in certain action´s... right hitler? xD
That being said today´s society is already "hunting" people who dont kill there body´s with mc donald´s, dont smoke, dont drink alcohol and dont go out late to get their ears blown out by loud weird music.
We use the term "weird" for people who dont practice at least one of those things.
Society in a nutshell:
"Take a cigarette man! Nah man im cool. Comon man EVERYBODY IS SMOKING! Well if everybody is crazy who am i to be normal...."
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A Good Example is Serbia people here will never accept being gay as normal.
However instead of investing into our society/culture/economy we finance gay pride´s.....
see for yourself how well that ends......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wuGPE7a-Y
Somebody is really desperate about showing how "normal" homosexuality is.
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So you have absolutely nothing against "eliminating" the weak for the good of the superior one´s? Interesting :D
And dont say Humans are animals.... Im definetly not an animal..... dont know for yourself.....
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nobody knows for certain what causes cancer. Here in Germany every once in a while another "definitive" cause of cancer is found. Last I remember was Potato Chips.
I have given up believing them anything to be honest. I am using a logical technique to determine if something is good or bad. For example, my Uncle died at 87 and he loved Steaks. He did eat a lot of them. If my uncle eats so much meat and still reaches a healtly 87 (apart from the stresses old age brings) thats ok for me. He is not the only one by the way (former Generations of people really loved eating meat).
So you may excuse if I dont give a Salad about acidic this and that. Life is complicated enough as it is.
Yes we know a couple of reason´s why somebody get´s sick but usually people dont wanna think with their brains or take responsibility......... and just "flow" with the rest...
if everybody is crazy who am i to be normal.......
and do i care if you care or not?? You kill your body fine!
I did warn you, there´s no sense in throwing Diamonds in front of Pigs how we say in serbia hehe :smile:
Can we objectively prove that being gay is wrong (in the same way you can prove rape/pedophilia is wrong)?
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Posted · Edited by standalone09
I have given overwhelming reasons to show why sex organs have only ONE purpose-*procreation*. Couple that with the arguments I gave, and you will understand why Homosexuality is objectively against the very nature of the Human system.
I have never told anything about it being 'Common' or 'Normal'.You seem to be deliberately straw-manning.
I will summarize it for easier understanding:
Fact1: The sexual system “indicates” that certain organs are sexual (genital) organs and certain other organs are non-sexual organs.
Fact 2: The sexual system indicates that the normal expected sexual target is an ADULT, HUMAN of the OPPOSITE SEX.
Thus the clear indication is that the sex organs are for procreation.
Thus, Condoms, birth control, and masturbation etc. Can all be seen as a clear misuse of one's organs.
Unless you can prove that Organs are not sexual in nature and were really intended for pleasure, you are implicitly agreeing that you don't have anything to say against this argument.
There are many practices that society as a whole has become very tolerant about.But this does not make it morally jusitfied.
For the "Homosexuality in animals" argument i will just quote Dr. Antonio Pardo:
"Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction."