Danman804

My dream mod: http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1018999-comprehensive-ultimate-floating-island-playerfollwer-home-wdlc-content/#ipboard_body Oh to have a house like this....I know so many homes like this exist, but most if not all of them don't have DLC content I would like to see.

Forgot to add that any DLC content is welcome as long as above requirements are met: multiple adoption capable home is welcome as long as you either put it in a separate wing to lower FPS hit or something similar. Anyone interested? You would possibly have the eternal gratitude of the entire skyrim nexus community with such an achievement.

So, I have searched high and low for a good house/player home that will fit my tastes, and came back empty handed. I must have tried 40 different places, to no avail. What I am looking for is a player home that could also incorporate some Hearthfire (oven, planting) as well as any other DLC you see fit, in a secluded high-flying sky forest-paradise island with beautiful scenery of skyrim in a right location (a pond or lake on it would be nice). The house should NOT be: - Either entirely dwemer or solitude architecture. It should be cozy and comfortable with some flair for style, not dreary and barren. Both of these architectural elements can be incorporated as a small part of the home, but not as the main style of the place. Some telvanni elements (levitation circle, some mushroom architecture etc) is fine. - Being entirely devoid of loading doors. While it's nice to have everything in one cell, the amount of hoarded items in containers and followers will crash most rigs for sure. Therefore, there should be SOME separate loading areas, or at least optional file to make each rooms separate as user sees fit. Think underground bathhouse and the optional file to separate each room in separate cells. What the house should have: - Fully navmeshed, companion/spouse friendly. - Hearthfire oven/churn, and fish hatchery located on the said pond on the floating island (either make it optional hearthfire version or the main file) - On the same vein, some cows and chickens as well as goats in a cattle pen, along with multiple apiary and a grind mill. - VERY IMPORTANT: Separate companion area with pool/bathing space and beds (either a cavern or well-designed sanctuary of that sort). Preferably enough to house and bed 5-10 followers. - LIBRARY. With enough bookshelves to house over 1000+ books with unlimited books mod. Also a fireplace and reading lounge that gives it the cozy library feeling. - Usual amenities: Alchemy, enchanting, smithing areas, all separate and tastefully designed without feeling too much like someone just slapped a bunch of containers and items together. - Greenhouse/in door garden - AND/OR outdoor garden all enough to plant 50 or more items. - Separate museum with central circular configuration (think main lobby of college of winterhold except filled with mannequins and display cases as well as racks) and connecting wings to display separate and unique items (daedric wing, unique item wing, jewel/gem wing, etc) - Master bedroom w/ double bed, and guest room with single bed. - Treasure/gold vault that has an air of opulence not just a bunch of chests and safes. - As mentioned above, separate, high-flying forested/watered (pond) floating island in a good location, accessible only by someone (and their followers) with the key to the place or dragonblood (think sky haven temple blood ritual). - Most crucially, be aware of the FPS requirements - loading doors and good awareness of how this kind of house will perform in an average rig used for skyrim is vital. Some people pointed out the Halls of Dovahdor as being pretty much this, but I felt it was too moddy (hoarded chests, awkward placement of the library) as well as being prone to CTD going from one wing to another not to mention being FPS intensive when in the main hall (lowest was 16 from the throne). I do realize this is a pretty heavy request - if anyone is willing to take up the torch, I would be very grateful, and I am sure everyone else is also. I think many people are tired of living in Deus Mons.

I am trying to comb the internet for any clues - but they all seems somewhat lackluster. If anyone has an idea I would very much appreciate it.

You mention NMM each time so I wonder if you cam run by double clicking the tesv.exe aplication without getting an error? Also can you run without the dinput8.dll by renaming it to like dinput8.TST? If your tesv.exe is corrupt then steam should have detected that and replaced it unless you have disabled steam some how. You could do an integrity check How to check cache integrity on Steam? : V - Skyrim I did rename dinput8.dll to dinput8.tst, but the game runs apparently without scriptdragon like it's not functional at all. I also did the file integrity check twice - no dice. For those just looking at this page, I have updated to the latest patches for the game and latest version of scriptdragon just few days ago, so script dragon should work, but it isn't. The error states "Can't load scriptdragon.dll update to latest version". I am sure some other people are having similar problems? Anyone know the solution to making this work?

As I have said, I have all the latest versions. I did as instructed and put all the files in bin folder to the game directory containing the launcher.exe. I try to start via NMM and get that error message.

I am getting the 'Can't load scriptdragon.dll, update to latest version' error after trying to launch skyrim from NMM. Problem is, both my game and script dragon is upto latest versions as of today. Does anyone have any experience dealing with this? I couldn't get anything shifting through the internet except 'delete script dragon'. I would love to, except I can't use the 'non-combat skills don't make you level' mod if I don't have script dragon. If anyone can help me to get script dragon to work, or find another mod that will allow me to keep non-combat skills from leveling me, I would be very grateful.

Has no one actually replied to this message? I am having the same problems. Anyone?

This might be a good reference for one. See the no-nonsense presence and armor. Although that armor could be better covering the leg with more fitting outfit.

Hm. Speaking personally, while I like the idea of giving people wings, I don't like the idea over overly large wings. A size between Elbow-span and Arm-span for the wingspan sounds good to me. What's your opinion, Dan? Wings will be nice, but they must be implemented with an image that inspires 'strength' and 'paragon' instead of 'frail' and 'angelic' in modern sense. In that sense, compare image 1 and 2 and you get the idea spot on. Edit: There won't be any problems making them beautiful, but pretty in our sense of the word is pretty much not befitting. I have personally known some women who by their very presence commands an almost patriarchal, Augustinian respect despite the fact that judging by their facial features they could pass for a cute 14 year old. It's extremely hard to pull off, so that's why I think starting slow and easy with certain things would be a good idea. Nords would be the logical starting point, but let's think about ways to make them seem 'above' mortals in a way that inspires awe and respectful deference bordering on awe struck fear. Flaming white or dark hair may be? :) Some more muscle on them bones might also be good. Facial expression should also not be of one that looks naive or helpless but one that is focused, power-wielding and once again, almost oppressive in a sense. I am going to try and find an image that more closely fits this idea. I think you might be able to do so as well. Let me know if you find anything. In some ways, the one of the old nord heroes such as the one women out of three who originally faced alduin (can't think of her name out of top of my head) is much closer to real Valkyrie - her character, her demeanor ,etc. She should in fact be even tougher than that. Also, weapons should be battle-hardened but still powerful and have the feel of 'powerful super-mortal force'.

I wanted to stay away from this thread, the amount of "Troll-magnetism" is just too high. But I want to say that this guy (or girl?) Is on right track. First post lacked any sort of pictures, it was all about what it should not be, and it was written in hate, inducing rage in reader and making people confused. When I tried to search google with "Valkyrie", I only ended up seeing tons of anime pictures. Soo.. It's not easy finding the "Right" thing you want, as you only said what you don't want. :biggrin: Not really, just the fact that there is time and place for everything. We do need to know what to avoid to get an idea of what should be, and no matter what someone would like to think, those google anime pictures are really just giving off heavily adolescent fantasy material feel for any one serious about portrayal of mythology to take seriously. Like I said, the contrast between 1st image and 2nd is a good starting point. What can we do from there on? What pictures? OP has no pictures. 2nd post after mine.

I wanted to stay away from this thread, the amount of "Troll-magnetism" is just too high. But I want to say that this guy (or girl?) Is on right track. First post lacked any sort of pictures, it was all about what it should not be, and it was written in hate, inducing rage in reader and making people confused. When I tried to search google with "Valkyrie", I only ended up seeing tons of anime pictures. Soo.. It's not easy finding the "Right" thing you want, as you only said what you don't want. :biggrin: Not really, just the fact that there is time and place for everything. We do need to know what to avoid to get an idea of what should be, and no matter what someone would like to think, those google anime pictures are really just giving off heavily adolescent fantasy material feel for any one serious about portrayal of mythology to take seriously. Like I said, the contrast between 1st image and 2nd is a good starting point. What can we do from there on?

I don't think you understand how your careless expression of limited opinions, as well as insulting attempts at trying to justify such shallow sentiments, led you to be treated that way because you were called out on your carelessness. You really need to watch what you say before really in all honesty, childishly making such weak comments trying to defend your careless comments. I cannot be responsible for how you present your petulant attitude towards other's comments when you can't handle what it is saying because of what it's saying, not because it was directly against you specifically. You got pricked because of your own lack of understanding, not because someone was directly going after you. The way you reacted really sounded like a weak knee-jerk reaction, and is dripping petulance with every other reply you make. I am sure some of the modders had similar ideas, but I think what we got so far is good enough for a starting point.

Again you seem to be misreading catastrophically... Neither me, Strokend or hotemochick have ever said that it either have to be feminine OR gruff. We are all saying it needs to be something in between. I don't think you even know what you are talking about at this point. You just ran against your own words when you said "If you wanted to describe the image to an audience who would never see it, but give them the sense of her being a warrior, you'd have to exclude the part of her being beautiful." that by all accounts is at least implying and showing incompatibility between your idea of beauty and power. Wrong guy, I'm the one who used the audience line, not Zaldiir. Taking the meat out of a meat sandwich? Really? What does beauty have to do with a soldier? How is it the war aspect of him? It's more like the Lettuce on a burger. A person may always make a burger with that lettuce, but suddenly making it without doesn't make it less of a buger. It still has the buns and the patty. I was working by your definition here. You argued that beauty meant femininity meant weak and fragile. At this point, I don't really have the patience to read through the rest of it, so I'll just say this: It's your mod request, not mine. When you supported the second image I used to pull more information out of you, I assumed you wanted that form of beauty. I even further guessed it would take position somewhere between the Imperials and Nords. However, if that is not what you want, I'm presently at a loss for what you do want, and any modders may be as well. Good luck in this, I do look forward to seeing it being made, but at present I intend to become just a watcher here. At the very least, I'll give myself a chance to look through things more carefully before I post again. Let me clarify once again. The beauty I speak of is not solely about 'modern' sense of beauty. That is what I would reject, but let us compare the 1st and 2nd image, and try to understand what I am trying to say about what to reject and what we should aspire to. 1st image is what I would call wall-flower-like feel of Valkyie. Ethereal, fragile, dolled-up version that is more fitting for a barbie doll instead of real and original portrayal of Valkyries. 2nd image gives off much more vibrant, powerful, and imperious feel that much better fits the idea of Valkyrie. As a modder, if you feel that 2nd image is what you can realistically go after as a starting point, I would appreciate your efforts. What I am attempting to convey here is that we must avoid at all costs such attempts at making these valkyries look at some kind of anime-whack off material, wall-flower cr@p they call valkyrie to begin with. Maybe from that point on we can look even deeper into how to bring the image much closer to its original image. Your idea for 2nd image has merit - I hope we can see something out of that. Try to pursue more power-inducing feel rather than overtly emphasizing modern sense of feminity at the expense of presence of power like the first one (it really does, no matter how much anyone would like to believe otherwise - perception needs to influence both the wielder and the viewer for it to really matter). The idea is really ambitious, so we can take one step at a time.

Again you seem to be misreading catastrophically... Neither me, Strokend or hotemochick have ever said that it either have to be feminine OR gruff. We are all saying it needs to be something in between. I don't think you even know what you are talking about at this point. You just ran against your own words when you said "If you wanted to describe the image to an audience who would never see it, but give them the sense of her being a warrior, you'd have to exclude the part of her being beautiful." that by all accounts is at least implying and showing incompatibility between your idea of beauty and power. I don't think you are capable of understanding the one making really catastrophic and short-sighted misunderstanding is you who is very much contradicting your own words with your tone of voice opposing and giving lie to statements you make. You say you never meant something this way, while following up with statements that are clearly implying otherwise. I don't think you can really grasp what you yourself is trying to say, while I am outlining and clearly explaining again and again what I mean with examples that may or may not elude your sense of what is and is not. You don't address what I mentioned, but goes back on your word again and again. Mine stands on the idea that this is seemingly impossible, but still very much a valuable possibility that may not be correctly perceived by others with much more limited view of what is being portrayed in these old works of literary and traditional treasures. You are attempting, and going around in circles, trying to justify how your present view should be best imposed upon these ideas when they are clearly out of your league seeing as trying to explain them in your own terms is making you run around trying to cover your own words. I suggest you broaden your horizons about the perceptions of what I am hoping modders are going to portray here. You are running in circles here.