DannyAcme

I tried doing the Reset input Layer method, going to previous saves all the way to the beginning of the game and uninstalling and reinstalling the game and NOTHING. Worse of all, I read it can get fixed by beating the Reunions quest, but when I get to Fort Hagen, the goddamn elevator that's supposed to take you to Kellog doesn't work, even though it's not boarded up. It's driving me f*cking crazy! Does ANYONE know any way I can fix this damn thing?!

I was playing the game with a Dualshock 3 with SCP Tools, but my DS3 died so I got a DS4 to replace it. Now, the controller works fine, with all the buttons being detected by the game and working properly, but the Aim and Fire commands disappeared! L2 and R2 don't do aiming or firing when all the other buttons are mapped to the other commands, and in the Control Settings menu, they don't show up for rebinding! I tried to validate the game's files to see if it was maybe an issue with a modified file, but STeam said that all the files were validated. Does anyone have any idea what the hell's going on?

Hey, guys, just wanted to give you the heads up, I finally solved the CTD issue :) Turns out, I DID have my load order pretty much perfect. The actual problem is a minor mod conflict Rigmor of Bruma has with Immersive Armors. If Immersive Armors tries to do its initial configuration while Rigmor of Bruma is active, it causes the game to CTD. You just need to disable Rigmor.esp, let Immersive Armors do its thing until it's fully configured, save the game, reactivate Rigmor.esp and reload the save. Rigmor is loaded with no issues and the game runs perfectly.

Just tried validating the files, still no dice. And I've followed a bazillion tutorials online to optimize my ENB and INI files. I give up -_-

I literally just tried that and it still crashed. It takes a little longer to crash, but by a few seconds. If I got to menus, it crashes faster. Now I'm seriously at a loss :/ Should I try verifying the game files with Steam?

UPDATE: I think I'm narrowing down what might be the issue. The game keeps CTD'ing when I go into the Settings menu to change my camera settings and stuff. Could it be one of the mods that modifies the UI is not playing nice?

I made sure I only cleaned those files that needed it, yes. The ones that had messages that they should not be cleaned I left alone, and I didn't clean Skyrim.esm, which I know to be left alone as well. As for the intro, I don't even get that far. I get done with character creation and a few seconds after I get the CTD. I have Alternate Start, and I was planning on doing it somewhere else other than Vanilla, but like I said, I don't even get that far. Maybe I should try Vanilla character creation instead of RaceMenu?

This is seriously driving me friggin' nuts. I have a modest number of mods installed, nowhere near 255, I have meticulously cleaned them all, optimized the load order with loot and I still get a CTD almost immediately after my character's done being made. I turn to you guys now, cause I have no clue what else I could be doing wrong. First of all, my computer's info: -Windows 10 64x -AMD FX-8120 3.1Ghz 4 Core -8GB DDR3 RAM -AMD Radeon HD 7900 (Yes, it's old, but I don't have a bazillion dollars to upgrade yet). My load order: Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1Falskaar.esm=1Wyrmstooth.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=0SkyMoMod.esm=1Campfire.esm=1CompanionArissa.esm=1moonpath.esm=1HighResTexturePack01.esp=1HighResTexturePack02.esp=1HighResTexturePack03.esp=1Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1Cutting Room Floor.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1TakeNotes.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1Kickass Esbern.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1RealisticRoomRental.esp=1Rigmor.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1SkyRe_Main.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1humans drop human parts.esp=1Rebirth Monster.esp=13DNPC.esp=1Folkstead.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1Nyhus.esp=1Jehanna.esp=1RealShelter.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1Helgen Reborn.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp=1SoS - The Wilds.esp=1SoS - Civilization.esp=1OBIS.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1w2salem.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp=0Sky Haven Temple M&M3.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Hunting in Skyrim.esp=1EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - RRR patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp=1Inigo.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1RSPatch.esp=1OBISDB.esp=11nivWICCloaks.esp=11nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp=1TreaclemanMoonpathPatch.esp=1QaxeWinterholdRebuild.esp=1moonpath_questdata.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp=1VioLens.esp=1Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1VL No AoE Drain.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1OBIS ApachiiSkyHair.esp=0TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1Convenient Horses.esp=1Convenient Horses - Faster Sprint.esp=1Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp=1Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp=1RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1BabettesFeastBalanced.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Essential Blades.esp=1arnima.esp=1HothFollower.esp=1Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1Moonpath-RRR Patch.esp=1SofiaFollower.esp=1SkyRe_Races.esp=1HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp=1HarvestOverhaulCreatures_RND_Animal_Loot_All_DLC.esp=1RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp=1Darkend.esp=1More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp=1Vampirelordroyal.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp=1When Vampires Attack.esp=1BVandRB_Formlist.esp=1HothFollower UFO Patch.esp=1Bijin Warmaidens.esp=1Grandmaster Delphine.esp=1Recorder Follower Base.esp=1Hermit.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1Poet.esp=1KhajiitChildren.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1SkyRe_Survivalism.esp=1KDC - kevinsterable - Deadly Stronger Poisons.esp=1RGMsAlchemistsCompendium.esp=1HarvestOverhaul.esp=1HarvestOverhaul_SkyRe_Patch.esp=1OMageCommonRobesV2.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1Sleeved Guards.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=1LeftHandRings.esp=1LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp=1EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1ReProccer.esp=1 As you can see, ApachiiSkyHair and all its dependent mods are disabled, cause I read that it was better to turn it on after being done with the prologue than to have it on at the beginning. Other than that, I have no clue what the hell I'm doing wrong.

I've been getting a bug on my game that's driving me crazy: weapons are spawning with missing mods or no mods at all (making the weapons invisible), and in the weapons workbench, the different mod categories are missing. I've been uninstalling weapon mods like crazy trying to fix it with no success. If any of you guys have had this bug manifest and have been able to fix it, please help! I'm enclosing screenshots showing the bug and my load order. 0 0 Fallout4.esm 1 1 Damage Threshold.esm 2 2 HardcoreMode_ON.esm 3 3 Homemaker.esm 4 4 ConcealedArmor.esm 5 5 SettlementKeywords.esm 6 6 ArmorKeywords.esm 7 7 Simple Bug Fixes.esp 8 8 NX Pro - Farm Core.esp 9 9 Simple Intersection.esp 10 a Wastelander's Cookbook.esp 11 b WeaponModFixes.esp 12 c Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp 13 d MojaveImports.esp 14 e Weaponry Overhaul.esp 15 f LegendaryModification.esp 16 10 InfusedPlasmaBuff.esp 17 11 PipeGunRedux.esp 18 12 Layerable Apparel.esp 19 13 Remove Interior Fog.esp 20 14 DarkerNights.esp 21 15 FogOut.esp 22 16 PA_Re(balance).esp 23 17 More Power Armour Mods.esp 24 18 RaiderOverhaul.esp 25 19 Weaponsmith Extended.esp 26 1a Crossbow.esp 27 1b mk14.esp 28 1c M45A1.esp 29 1d Mac11.esp 30 1e Rhino.esp 31 1f AK47.esp 32 20 Glock20.esp 33 21 IF88TacShotgun.esp 34 22 BattleRifle.esp 35 23 Fr4nssonsLightTweaks.esp 36 24 keyNuker_cards_en.esp 37 25 keyNuker_keys_en.esp 38 26 Dogmeat's Backpack.esp 39 27 SPECIAL40.esp 40 28 SkjAlert_RS+.esp 41 29 Respawnable Legendary Bosses.esp 42 2a ScrapDeadThings.esp 43 2b LuckyYouPerk.esp 44 2c GhoulishOverhaul.esp 45 2d P.G.Overhaul.esp 46 2e AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp 47 2f AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp 48 30 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp 49 31 ScrapThatMisc.esp 50 32 My_Minutemen.esp 51 33 BrighterSettlementLights_ExtraBrightv1.1.esp 52 34 CBBE.esp 53 35 Craftable Vault 81 Cure (Earned).esp 54 36 IS_BEST_FIGHTER_Strong_v2.esp 55 37 LongerPowerLines3x.esp 56 38 LootableBones.esp 57 39 LootableWorkbenches.esp 58 3a This is MY Bed (Basic).esp 59 3b Move (Get Out the Way).esp 60 3c LegendaryModification2LM.esp 61 3d LegendaryMod2LMWeaponryOverhaul.esp 62 3e LegendaryModificationCSA.esp 63 3f LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp 64 40 LegendaryModificationMisc.esp 65 41 Movable Power Armor.esp 66 42 MoreWeaves.esp 67 43 Crafting Workbench.esp 68 44 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp 69 45 Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp 70 46 Crafting Workbenches - Faction and Quest Requirements.esp 71 47 Companion Infinite Ammo.esp 72 48 Buildable_PAFrames.esp 73 49 Simple Bug Fixes - Lone Wanderer.esp 74 4a combat_PA.esp 75 4b tumbajamba Advanced Engineering.esp 76 4c combat_PA - tAE - AWKCR.esp 77 4d Cait CBBE Standalone 1.esp 78 4e ClassyCompanions.esp 79 4f VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp 80 50 ImmersiveScrapping.esp 81 51 MoBettaScrap.esp 82 52 CrazyEarlsScrapyard.esp 83 53 NX Pro - Harvest Overhaul.esp 84 54 Scrap annoying things.esp 85 55 StockMoreBallisticFiber.esp 86 56 BetterSettlers.esp 87 57 BetSetMortalPatch.esp 88 58 Wild Fruit Conversion v1.21.esp 89 59 M2216.esp 90 5a GrenadePistol.esp 91 5b AK2047.esp 92 5c GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp 93 5d slootyVaultSuit.esp 94 5e Armorsmith Extended.esp 95 5f Armor_Mods_Expanded_v1b2.esp 96 60 Dark Drifter.esp 97 61 ChemsPlus.esp 98 62 Craftable Animal Glue - Adhesive Recipes.esp 99 63 [PPE] Rebalancer + Wastelander's Cookbook + Mojave Imports [Patch].esp100 64 NewFood.esp101 65 IncreasedSettlerPopulation30.esp102 66 More Durable Power Armor - 50%.esp103 67 OldStyleCriticals.esp104 68 Rebalancer - 01B - Exploration - 50.esp105 69 Rebalancer - 01C - Crafting - 50.esp106 6a Rebalancer - 01D - Settlement - 50.esp107 6b Rebalancer - 02F - Stealth - Heavy.esp108 6c Rebalancer - 02G - AI Tweaks - Heavy.esp109 6d Rebalancer - 02I - Limb Tweaks - Heavy.esp110 6e Rebalancer - 04C - Fusion Core Jetpack Drain - 50.esp111 6f Rebalancer - 10A - General Respawn - 5.esp112 70 Rebalancer - 10B - Dungeon Respawn - 10.esp113 71 Rebalancer - 10C - Vendor Respawn - 1.esp114 72 Tougher Legendary Enemies - Increased Health.esp115 73 StrongerDeathclaws.esp116 74 StrongerDeathclawsWeaker.esp117 75 bottlewater.esp118 76 New Craftable Items by Tamayo831.esp119 77 CommChemExpanded.esp120 78 Corn Oil.esp121 79 More Weapon Scrap.esp122 7a GaussRifleMk2.esp123 7b GaussRifleMk2 - tAE - AWKCR.esp124 7c Glorious_Glowing_Plasma_Weapons_by_Diranar.esp125 7d ArtilleryDblExp.esp126 7e Hard Legendary Giant Creatures.esp127 7f OWR.esp128 80 SwanAxe.esp129 81 ArtilleryFlare.esp130 82 TGLPowerFistMods.esp131 83 EnclaveX02.esp132 84 Rad-pak.esp133 85 TrueStormsFO4.esp134 86 HarcoreMode_ON-TrueStormsFO4.esp135 87 Nuclear weather-TSCompat.esp136 88 TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp137 89 TrueStormsFO4-NoConstantRads.esp138 8a DarkerNights-FogOut.esp139 8b DarkerNightsDetection.esp140 8c BetterNightVision.esp141 8d DarkerNights-TrueStorms.esp142 8e Radiant Clouds and Fogs.esp143 8f DarkerNights-Radiant.esp144 90 Raider Overhaul - AE Patch.esp145 91 WMF-Patch-Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp146 92 Weapon Mods Mod.esp147 93 Extended weapon mods.esp148 94 SniperDamage.esp149 95 WMF-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp150 96 WMF-Patch-Weaponry Overhaul.esp151 97 Homemaker - SK Integration Patch.esp152 98 Homemaker - Greenhouse and Bunker Disabler SK.esp153 99 Parang Machete.esp154 9a LK05.esp155 9b SkibsWH77LSW.esp156 9c DesertEagle50AE.esp157 9d R91M.esp158 9e M14.esp159 9f G3.esp160 a0 USP 45.esp161 a1 USP 45 - 1st Person Aim Fix.esp162 a2 AK-M14Standalone.esp163 a3 AK_LeveledLists.esp164 a4 m1carbine.esp165 a5 H&K G3 + USP 45 Compatibility Patch.esp166 a6 Skibs223Pistol.esp167 a7 GatlingRifle.esp168 a8 GatlingRifle-AWKCR.esp169 a9 AK_223Standalone.esp170 aa AK_AK2047Standalone.esp171 ab AK_AK47Standalone.esp172 ac AK_G20Standalone.esp173 ad AK_G3Standalone.esp174 ae AK_G67Standalone.esp175 af AK_GrenadePistolStandalone.esp176 b0 AK_IF88Standalone.esp177 b1 AK_M2216Standalone.esp178 b2 AK_ParangStandalone.esp179 b3 AK_R91Standalone.esp180 b4 AK_USP45Standalone.esp181 b5 AK_WH77Standalone.esp182 b6 ConcealedArmor.esp183 b7 Eli_Utility Jumpsuits.esp184 b8 Eli_Accessories.esp185 b9 BossChestsHaveLegendaries.esp186 ba Two-Shot Shotgun Support.esp187 bb DD_M79_Launcher_woooot.esp188 bc mysteriousmagnum.esp189 bd RangerSequoia.esp190 be SkibsIF54.esp191 bf Insignificant Object Remover.esp192 c0 AK_DesertEagleStandalone.esp193 c1 zWInsanity.esp194 c2 AK_KatanaStandalone.esp195 c3 SCAR-LK.esp196 c4 M1911.esp197 c5 AK_M1911Standalone.esp198 c6 m82a.esp199 c7 AK_M82AStandalone.esp200 c8 M9.esp201 c9 AK_M9Standalone.esp202 ca AK_Mac11Standalone.esp203 cb AK_RhinoStandalone.esp204 cc CMPA +300.esp205 cd Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp206 ce Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp207 cf Crecy.esp208 d0 GatlingRifle-DamageReduce.esp209 d1 Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp210 d2 LegendaryModification2LMConcealed.esp211 d3 Merchants stick with store - Regular settlers.esp212 d4 Merchants stick with store - Unique Settlers.esp213 d5 Molerat_Disease_Immunity_PA1_Hazmat.esp214 d6 PortableSleepingBag.esp215 d7 Rebalancer - 02H - Sprint Cost - 50.esp216 d8 Rebalancer - 04B - Fusion Core AP Drain - 75.esp217 d9 Regent.esp218 da RhinoSights.esp219 db ShipmentSize_100.esp220 dc SpotlightFix-300.esp221 dd vepsrewardsx2.esp222 de vepsvendorscapsx10.esp223 df Blues Radio DBR.esp224 e0 Conelrad 640-1240.esp225 e1 DeltaRadio.esp226 e2 Existence 2.0.esp227 e3 GermanRadio.esp228 e4 1954HolmesianRadio.esp229 e5 More Where That Came From Diamond City.esp230 e6 RadioFreeCoulton.esp231 e7 Wolf100.esp232 e8 CutWeaponModsRestored.esp233 e9 CWMR-Patch-Extended weapon mods.esp234 ea CWMR-Patch-Realistic Guns and Bullets Overhaul.esp235 eb CWMR-Patch-Weaponry Overhaul.esp236 ec CWMR-Patch-WeaponModFixes.esp

Hey, guys, I know this particular bug is driving everyone crazy, so here's a guide to help you avoid the bug and be able to play the game as modded as you can make it. This guide is based on experimentation on my part, and so far it has been working for me well. First of all, don't consider this a be-all-end-all guide, this is merely based on experimentation and is not a true bug fix. A robot might show up invisible later that I hadn't noticed, but so far I haven't encountered any. Second of all, unfortunately, if you have a save that has invisible bots, that save is unfortunately useless. If the save has the bug, it'll have the bug even if you deactivate all mods. I confirmed this experimenting with Codsworth in the prologue, with him staying invisible even with the mods turned off but showing up visible by immediately starting a new game. Basically, you need a save that doesn't have the bug or a new game to be able to avoid the bug. Third, the bug is more likely to occur the more mods you have installed, so if you encounter the bug, start getting rid of as many mods as you can live without. Just get rid of those you rarely have use for or that don't make a big difference towards your enjoyment of the game. Okay, now here's the most important part of the process. You need to follow this STEP BY STEP. This is IMPERATIVE for it to work: 1. Turn off all autosaving. The game must not save by itself at any moment during the process. 2. Start a new game with no mods active and play through the prologue all the way through. You must not have ANY mods active until later. 3. Here's the main gist of it: when you finally get out of Vault 111, you need to find robots to use as reference to avoid the bug. Luckily, there are three robots within a short walking distance from Vault 111: Codsworth in Sanctuary, the Protectron at Wicked Shipping Fleet Lockup (south of Vault 111 past the electric tower) and the Security Bot at the Robotics Disposal Ground (east/northeast of Vault 111 circling the lake). Go to all three places so you can fast travel to all three and verify that all three are visible. 4. After you have all three fast travel markers, do a manual save, NOT A QUICKSAVE.This will now be your CONTROL SAVE. After doing the control save, quit the game and start activating mods in small groups. Don't do it one-by-one, cause you'll go crazy with how time-consuming it'll be, but don't try to install them all at once cause you won't be able to detect problems as they rise. Groups of, say, between 5 and 10 mods are good, depending on how many mods you have. I'm nearing the 255 plug-in cap, for example, so I do them in groups of 10. Now every time you activate a group of mods, start the game again and load the control save. After loading it, fast travel to all three locations to verify the robots are visible. CHECK ALL THREE ROBOTS. If they are, the bug has been avoided so far. DO NOT SAVE, but instead quit the game and either write down or screencap which mods are installed so far so you keep track. Keep doing this process until you get the bug. When you get the bug, quit without saving and check that particular group of mods to see which one is triggering the bug. If the mod is something you can live without, just uninstall it and continue the process. If you CAN'T live without it, deactivate each mod one-by-one while keeping the mod that triggers the bug active. When the bug doesn't trigger, it means you've found the mod that conflicts with the bug-inducing mod, and you can uninstall that one instead. And there you have it. It's a bit of a time consuming process, but with some patience, you can have a game loaded to the gills with mods and avoid the bug successfully. Happy playing!

I don't bother with the patch just because most bugs and issues that I've had with the game have already been fixed by a mod, so unless it's a major update that adds new features or overhauls existing ones, it's not really worth it. And honestly, I've so far felt that Fallout 4 is actually the most stable game release Bethesda's done yet. I haven't had any crashes unless they're mod-involved (and thanks to NMM's interface, I've identified those easily), consistent frame rate with nary a stutter and no quest-breaking bugs so far, knock on wood.

Here's my issue: I don't know what mod is causing it, but there's a mod that has bugged out my Charisma stat, and it's showing -28! And it's not a chem effect, at least not a temporary one, or any clothing I'm wearing that modified my stats. Has anyone had this bug happen to them too? If so, which mod is causing it?