yes i do have other mods installed but none that should effect this one and i have installed cbbe correctly and i installed it with vortex first then manually and not to worry i didnt break any files well i hope i didnt but anyway i tend to make back ups when doing things manually and im gonna try LOOT but do you think you could send me a link to a face mod that should work and the mod i showed said it had a optional hd dlc version didnt it? or something of the sort because installing it i get options for it also sorry for the hassle