Sharkull
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Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humans
Is that a serious question?
Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.
human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that!
Yeah... and if a mega asteroid hits the earth (splitting the planet in half)? Or our sun goes supernova? Or a pandemic viral outbreak wipes out humanity? ...
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if the world ends it proves me right because we did something to end it
and if we die we take everything out with us
That makes no sense whatsoever.
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I have a strong moral compass that guides me ethically. I don't always follow its direction (I am human after all), but I try to come as close as I can. If I don't try my best, then I lose respect for myself, and that is a slippery slope nobody wants to go down.
Really, morals pertain to values, and values are subjective. Laws are an attempt to objectify moral standards to be in line with what is commonly seen as what's best for society. Civil order is important, and the rule of law is necessary accordingly. That being said, justice is not as simple as a rule book (set of laws).
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Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humans
Is that a serious question?
Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.
human lives are not disposeable we are humans we are the rulers of nature and nothing can change that!
Yeah... and if a mega asteroid hits the earth (splitting the planet in half)? Or our sun goes supernova? Or a pandemic viral outbreak wipes out humanity? ...
:P
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Firefox. I find it faster, and all the plug-ins available allow me to customize it to my tastes (vs. using whatever M$ thinks is best).
Edit: This site having these emoticons might also be a clue as to preferences by staff here...
:bomb_ie:
:iluvff:
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Philosophical answer:
There is a fundamental difference between a human and a boat here, and it has been hinted at by a number of posters: Perception... consciousness. I have these things. A boat doesn't.
The question then becomes: what is the nature of consciousness, the entity that perceives? Is there a "supernatural" component, or is this entity completely natural (existing in or in conformity with the observable world)? The answer to the question is beyond human capabilities to reliably answer. The natural world (especially when considering the nature of life) is immensely intricate such that it is far from completely understood. No matter how much our knowledge progresses we will be unable to determine if there are knowable aspects of the natural world yet to be discovered. With this perpetual uncertainty a final determination pertaining to the potential existence of the supernatural is impossible.
The replacement of every molecule of the human body is not an assurance that all natural components of the human body have been replaced. It is possible that there are (theoretically) fifth dimensional components that are completely natural, but beyond current human understanding. The "supernatural" is also possible. We don't know.
Note: for the purposes of this response, consider "supernatural" as being in line with conventional meaning. I've omitted any thoughts I have to the contrary because they would be extraneous.
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Practical answer:
Identity is a product of nature (physical, chemical, biological) and nurture (experience). I am a combination of my physical body, my rational thinking mind, my subconscious, and my emotions. In my day-to-day life I don't care about the philosophical building blocks of existence / consciousness... I am what I am.
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Wait a min. why are we testing things for humans with animals we should be testing human things with humans
Is that a serious question?
Human beings on the whole (if I can make such a generalization) don't believe our own lives are disposable, meaning individual human lives are recognized as having distinct value. We don't look upon fruit flies, mice, rats, rabbits... in the same way. That, plus humans can say "no" and "ouch, that hurts" in a language we understand.
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I wouldn't be surprised in the least if PETA paid for that mistreatment themselves, just so they'd have the video to show to potential donors. They are not an organization I trust at all...
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail...dal-dogged-peta
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435475/posts
http://blozor.blogspot.com/2005/12/peta-ghraib-scandal.html
http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
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That being said (I'm not wading into a PETA fight), the contents of jaosals42's video are what I was talking about when I mentioned "cruelty" and "endangered species" (AFAIK, most monkey types are endangered). Should not be tolerated at all.
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@rogruim,
I know that most research is done as you describe... I just wasn't going to endorse testing carte blanche because abuses are not impossible.
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Strange... I seem to be the only one who'd want to move with food being one of the reasons in mind (besides possibly Mono...)... :unsure:
Cuisine is quite international practically wherever you go nowadays (at least in modern civilization / first world nations)... if you don't like the local food, you can always import what you want, or go to a restaurant that does it for you.
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Well hey, at least it's cheaper when you actually go to the place where it is made directly. You haven't need to worry about import tariffs and other sorts of international forms of tax, and you don't have to deal with other shipping costs either. Like for example, it's cheaper to get lobster in Maine, than it is in other parts of the US because of shipping costs.
True, true... however, importing things isn't always necessary. You won't likely find a Chicago Deep Dish style pizza in Italy, but you probably wouldn't have any problems finding the ingredients locally to make your own.
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Strange... I seem to be the only one who'd want to move with food being one of the reasons in mind (besides possibly Mono...)... :unsure:
Cuisine is quite international practically wherever you go nowadays (at least in modern civilization / first world nations)... if you don't like the local food, you can always import what you want, or go to a restaurant that does it for you.
:)
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Playing with sleep patterns can really take its toll on you. Having worked rotating shift work (as part of a 24/7 tech support team), I know this first hand.
One important thing to keep in mind if you do try again: do not drive when tired. It's worse than being drunk (as far as driving skill impairment goes).
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Language would be a big factor for me, and so would culture and standard of living. Being Canadian, the US might be an obvious choice but it wouldn't be an automatic one for me (for a few reason's I'm not going to mention). I'd also consider Australia, Scotland (paternal grandfather), England (majority of my heritage)... and possibly other European nations (especially Holland because we Canadians are liked there, and I may have some Dutch blood in me from my mother's side).
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I don't have a problem with such research, as long as it is done without cruelty, and not on endangered species.
Also, my tolerance is greater for potentially human life saving medical research vs. superficial things like cosmetics...
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Prolonging quality lifespan: sure.
Prolonging the agonizing last gasps of existence: no thanks.
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Realistic human ability: a perfect memory.
Unrealistic human ability: super hero type speed.
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I always chuckle when a corpse gets stuck half way through a door and starts doing the funky chicken dance.
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Rex Murphy hits the nail on the head with this one (link to video):
http://www.cbc.ca/thenational/indepthanaly...phy-091203.html
Partial quote from the video:
...Climate science has been shown to be - in part - a sub-branch of climate politics.
It is a situation intolerable even to serious minds who are onside with global warming, such as Clive Crook, who wrote in The Atlantic magazine about this scandal as follows: "The stink of intellectual corruption is overpowering”.
Climate science needs its own reset button. And Climategate should be seen, not primarily as a setback, but as an opportunity to cleanse scientific method. To take science away from politics, good causes, and alarmists, and vest climate science in bodies of guaranteed neutrality, openness, real and vigorous debate. And away from the lobbyists, the NGOs, the advocates, the Gores and professional environmentalists of all kind. Too many of the current leadership on global warming are more players than observers, gatekeepers, not investigators, angry partisans of some global reengineering rather than the humble servants of the "facts of the case”.
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I don't see any bugs noted in the wiki for that quest... I assume you've installed the Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch, and that you've tried going back and forth through the portal between Cyrodiil and the Isles (normally, not using the console) a few times to properly set your location.
If those things don't work, about the only suggestion I'd have left would be to load an older save game (I save every hour or two in case something like this happens). Hopefully you have an good save available.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe there is any way to "undo" quests in the way you are asking. I understand some console issues are fixed by uninstalling the add-on, loading the save without it, resaving, reinstalling the add-on and trying again, but I have no idea if this would work for the PC version.
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Seek an answer as to why... (likely because my account had been hacked because I wouldn't do anything ban worthy myself).
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6443/angel1.gif
Then contact admin to rectify the situation.
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If that didn't work, then I'd move on to seek greener pastures.
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Let me get this straight. You're the only one who has ever had an independent thought.
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I don't believe I ever made such a statement. I simply explained how I form opinions and how I apply that method to this subject. Everyone is of course free to form their own opinions however they choose.
...I tend to be highly skeptical of people who have an expensive education trying to convince the masses that "education is worthless". This is what I see happening every morning when I turn on CSpan. I also think it's laughable that people actually believe they don't need an education in critical thinking in order to draw a critically thought conclusion.
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Education is indeed a great asset. However, the educated are still human beings, subject to all the strengths and weaknesses therein. Human beings make mistakes (sometimes being deceptive on purpose). When considering any information I also consider the integrity of the source, qualifying reliability accordingly.
...Not because I think people are necessarily stupid, on the whole, but more because, people do not understand that their conclusions are colored to a degree they can't imagine by their own biases. In fact, unless you have been educated to have a hyper-awareness of it, all people are "Predictably Irrational", and actually cannot draw a critically thought rational conclusion. I believe the only way around this is to be armed with the knowledge that we are prone to make irrational decision and conclusions.
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On this point I agree completely, as evidenced by my signature.
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This is the main reason I enjoy debates: to challenge my beliefs, seeking out any biases I have but am not aware of.
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Gotta love forums with an Ignore feature.
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Instead of adopting the opinions of others as my own, I think for myself and form opinions on what I consider to be most plausible using deductive and non-deductive reasoning to consider the available information. (John Burbidge's "Within Reason" is good as an introduction to non-deductive reasoning for those interested... it was on the reading list for a Logic course I took in University many, many years ago).
On the subject at issue here, I find it highly plausible that scientists have been influenced by the funding of research into climate change... on both sides of the debate. Big oil $'s on one side, and petrified politicians (backed by government $'s, motivated by panicking populations) on the other, with the flames of controversy being fanned by media who profit from hysteria. Each side's scientists aren't motivated by pure scientific curiosity anymore... if results don't agree with their employer's desire, the scientist risks their career / funding. It has happened... more than once. Scientists are human beings, and the profit motive is strong. Employers of scientists use this to advantage.
A constant companion to hot button issues are claims of conspiracy being flung around trying to discredit the position of the other side. This leak is just one more such instance of the same pattern. People start buying into the hype of one side or the other, dogma taking hold, reasoned thought is brushed aside. It becomes "us" vs. "them".
Since I cannot take the scientific community at it's word here (for reasons I've just explained), I am forced to look at the issue myself. Back to basics. The Scientific Method. Without a controlled experiment, isolating the causal link you are trying to study from all other potential causal factors, the proof of any causal-link hypothesis with anything close to certainty is absolutely impossible. (If someone challenges that statement, please provide reasoning). Any hypothetical causal-link between human activity and climate change is unprovable.
Knowing this fundamental aspect of the Scientific Method, and considering the polarizing vehemence with which climate change positions are presented, I find it more plausible that this vehemence is motivated by self-interest vs. the strength of the science. I don't buy into either side's hype. Climate change happens completely naturally (as any geologist knows), and it is also possible that human activity can have an affect on climate change.
In closing, I'll quote myself:
All that being said, investing in smarter energy technology and conservation is something I can agree with (for more reasons than the climate change debate).:)
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Wow, no response. Not even someone else chiming in asking for the feature tweak.
Oh well. :mellow:
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You have a mental disorder.
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Is this pile of hostility directed at me? Ad hominem after Ad hominem. Followed by making baseless statements about me and my position, putting words into my mouth, then criticizing the opinions you have mistakenly attributed to me. Then taunts and more of the ad hominem junk.
If you want to discuss the subject matter fine. Personal attacks like this are useless.
Reported for trolling.
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I'm a human being, and I'm speaking with you. I've just told you my honest, unembellished opinion.And I gave a logical criticism of your post. I would deem this appropriate for a thread in the "debate" section of these forums. If you disagree I would imagine that you might be capable of responding in a manner that does not violate site rules.
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Now that I'm not that good at physics, I do still remember the day our teacher told me about this in 7th grade. The sun sends sunrays to the planet and some other things happen in the process, which creates Co2.
Thank you. I mean, I can't see how anyone hasn't ever thought about this before. People like you and me – real Joes Six-pack who live on Main Street, far away from eggheads sitting in their ivory towers sipping imported beers – we know the truth. We have life experiences that those idiot scientists can't ever replicate, no matter how many millions of man-hours they put into their research. We know things that give us the right to directly criticize both long-established scientific fact and heavily researched claims which are under active debate. Things that can't be learned from books, or peer-reviewed journals, or completing a research doctorate in climatology, or spending most of your professional life researching the same phenomenon.
Things like a half-remembered factoid from a grade school–level class we took 12 years ago, told to us by someone who had (at the very least) a two-year liberal arts degree, earned a few more decades prior.
Lol. Authoritarianism from an unexpected source (considering username only...).
Books: just because something is written down / published doesn't make it true.
Peer-reviewer journals: "peers" can't be biased / have conflicts of interest?
Completing a research doctorate in climatology, spending most of your professional life researching the same phenomenon: Logical fallacy, Argument from Authority
Yes, it is true that scientists are more qualified to speak intelligently on matters of science, but when even a layman can see the gaping holes in the structure of their inquiry, scepticism is warranted. The Scientific Method cannot be applied to the topic of global climate change such that any causal links could be proven (as I have previously explained). Intellectually honest scientists would tell you this instead of touting scientific consensus (coupling the logical fallacies Argument from Authority and Argumentum ad Populum ) as the backbone of their position.
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OK, I found the problem. In the USIP, the XPEbroccaBossSCRIPT omits the line where a flag (set resurrectOnce to 1) is set, and that flag is what's used to turn off the shock effect and allow the corpse to be activated.
I made a little mod fix (putting the line back where it originally was while leaving the USIP change alone), which seems to work. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll upload it.
Printable Oblivion Checklists
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I've released what will probably be the final version of my checklists.
If someone finds any errors I'll likely fix them. Any suggestions of improvements / additions will be considered as well, but I think I have things where I want them.
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27872
Enjoy
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