Nope I just tried what you said, with Billyy's animations this time. The old version was 6.9, the new version 7.0. So ver 6.9 slalanimobjbillyy.esp was on load order 164. I dropped the new ver 7.0 in. Vortex flagged with a redundant flag, then I left check to disable redundant mod which disabled the 6.9 version. while all this is going on, I'm leaving the autosort enabled. So when Vortex finally did its thing disabling ver 6.9 and enabling ver 7.0. It placed the slalanimobjbillyy.esp plug-in in load order 84. So LOOT is scrambling things up after an update. why man, why does vortex not allow plugins placed back where they were? Can the programmers of Vortex please give us manual control of our plug-ins. Its my game, Vortex does not own my game...