I know, i dont get it, there here, so that must mean there playing the games and downloading the mods, so they must not hate them all that much. last thing i have to say on the matter as i do not intend to continue this childish argument. Fallout 1 and 2 were good games for there time, but that time is over, look at it like this, New vegas had some of the staff making it that made the original games and i dont see any isometrics. Games have to move forwards, not backwards. If you enjoy the old games, great, play them till the day you die. But don't try and keep the new games down. They will contine to evolve for the better.