gigi86

Thank you, that one did the trick! Now I can have my guards effectively shoot beyond the railings and miss fair and square :laugh:, This was bugging me for a long time, thanks everyone.

Could you please describe your process? I sort of managed to get the bhkNPCCollisionObject tree under a NiNode that was under the root one but the process was a mess and the CK crashed instantly when I loaded the new model. First I added a new NiNode under the root, gave it a name (is the name important?) but then there was no way to move the bhkNPCCollisionObject tree under it except to copy and paste it but then it would paste as a new node on the same level as the root. I started from scratch, right clicked on the bhkNPCCollisionObject tree, attached a parent Ni-Node to it and what it did was create new NiNode at the bottom of the list (thought it was subordinate to root) with a new copy of the bhkNPCCollisionObject tree under it. Again I removed the original bhkNPCCollisionObject tree and again I got the glorious crash. This is what the model tree looks like initially. I also tried transforming the NiNode under bhkNPCCollisionObject but it moves the whole object.

Ok, so I'm probably not gonna be able to edit the collision mesh or make a new one. It would also work if I could just lower the existing one by 8 points in NifSkope. It should be possible because the author of this mod clearly aligned the edge of the railing to that of the collision mesh. But where do I find it in NifSkope? EDIT: In the case of this railing model I found a node called bhkNPCCollisionObject and messed around a bit with it's subnodes trying to lower them by 8 points but nothing happened in the editor. I think I messed around with every coordinates I could find to no effect. Any tips where I could find the coordinates of this collision mesh in the nif?

I downloaded a mod for metal railings and used them to build a nice big wall around Sanctuary with towers and everything. Then I placed guards in the towers right near the railings and spawned some supermutants to test the defenses but lo and behold! My guards were shooting mostly in the edge of the railings. So I opened the railing model in NifSkope and painstakingly made the thing shorter, vertice by vertice (I have nearly zero experience in modeling so this seemed the best option). Then I went into the construction kit to take a look at the railing object, pressed F4 to see the red collision meshes and found out that the smooth straight metal railing is using the same collision mesh as the uneven and taller plywood vanilla railing called workshop_ShackBalconyRailing04 in the editor. http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/imgen-blog/metal%20railing_zpstafwux4k.png http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/imgen-blog/plywood%20railing_zpspuqyer4r.png http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h414/imgen-blog/metal%20railing%20short_zps4pcef2pz.png Now I looked everywhere but I can't seem to find where I could even change this collision box with a different one. Ideally I would like to edit the vertices of the collision box to make it a really simple 6 sided thin box. All I could tell so far is that the collision box is assigned in the mesh of the object it's self but couldn't find where in NifSkope. So does anyone here know how to do this? Can I at least change the bounding box with another one? Would I be able to edit it with NifSkope? If not I would try to do it in Blender but exporting objects from NifSkope to Blender and then back seems like a real pain. Another more simple option would be to lower the collision box like the author of the mod did but that's just as big a mystery.