blasph23

That worked. I knew this command before, I had to use it earlier in version (~1.2), back at the beginning of the year, to drop the Gallus' journal from my inv after doing the quest. I made a mistake with Karliah though, I got the item ref id from GECK and tried to remove that; obviously it wasn't the same as her version of nightingale helm. Thanks for help, problem solved. She's pretty after my changes :P

Well, it looks like for some reason Karliah constantly has her Nightingale armor and helm equipped, I can't even remove them via console, they're not in her inventory, even after I disable the essential npc flag and kill her. Thus I'm unable to take a look at her face. Sadly my last save on this char is after I completed the quest line so I can't go back. Also, if I spawn her through console, no matter which ref id (or object id, I tried both) I choose, she always appears with that unremovable armor on. Looks like the only way to find out if it works for me is to start a new game and go through thieves' guild quests all over again. Another time maybe. Anyway thanks for help.