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  1. Hi to those who decide to read this,

     

    First things first, I'm running Nexus Mod Manager 0.61.6 and I've got quite a few mods running (well over 100) and four profiles (loving that feature BTW). Since I upgraded to the newer version with said Profiles feature, I noticed that there is a feature that I rather liked, completely disappear.

     

    When I used the update button in the past to find newer versions of Mod's, I got the usual exclamation point next to the number and I went to download the newer version. When I downloaded the newer version, it landed beside the old one and stayed there. I went to install the new version and it uninstalled the old one. Everything was fine.

     

    However now, when I install a newer version of any mod, including the popular SkyUI, it doesn't ask me if i want to update to the newer version by uninstalling the old one, it simply installs on-top of it. That could lead to problems and I have to uninstall the old first then install the new. Before, I liked the convience of just double clicking and telling the software 'yes' to uninstall the old and install the new.

     

    Can we get that feature back please? Unless I've missed it, which in that case, can you point it out for me? And what would really be nifty is if those who program the nexus could make it so that when you have a mod used across multiple profiles (I stated that I had 4 profiles, each profile shares over 100 mods with the others), for the NMM to recognize this and auto-update across all the profiles that have the mod activated? This would save me some time and I'm sure it would save others some time from having to switch profiles and locate said mod and do the same thing over.

     

    I know something like this could take a few weeks of constant programming to a few months, but some feedback on whether or not it's a good idea/feature would be awesome.

     

    So basically; getting the auto-uninstall feature back for updating to newer mods; ie, going from SkyUI 4.1 to 5.1 would uninstall 4.1 and automatically install 5.1. And as an added bonus; NMM would look at the mod being updated and scan other profiles and find [if any] others are using SkyUI 4.1 and ask 'hey, there are X number of other profiles using it, you want to update them too?"

     

    Thanks for your time and reading.

  2. "I'm sorry for (potentially, at this point) breaking your trust in us. We'll continue working away at this to get a conclusive answer and, when we do, you'll be the first to know.""

     

    It's the fact that the nexus is so open about security and other issues is a reason why my trust in you is still high. Other corporations try to hide things like this and that burns bridges.

     

    Good luck with everything.

  3. In response to post #29175309.


    chris270613 wrote: Mine Works Absolutely Fine..Have had NO Problems at All,apart from "Tilde Key" stopped Working,which is Probably NOT Connected to this Subject..Windows 8.1 64 Bit,32GB RAM,GTX980Ti..Why don't People just Stop Complaining and as for "Death Threats",they Should be Banned (in my Opinion),there is NO Need for it..END...................


    because you were one of the 1% that actually read the 4 posts and big red letters in the install process.

    Welcome to the 1% club.
  4. In response to post #29116569. #29120449 is also a reply to the same post.


    MDeckman wrote: Everyone complaining about your system being borked. Two questions:
    1.) Did you read the 4 news posts and the big read letters in the install process?
    2.) Did you attempt to make any sort of backup? Saves, plugins, mods?

    Because i'm starting to laugh at everyone that's complaining about how their install blew up.

    I read everything and I'm still gaming as if nothing happened, with 3 new profiles utilizing the new feature. I've got 218 mods in NMM, roughly 174 to 183 active in the profiles. My only issue right now is everyone complaining at the NMM team, saying it's the team's fault. The truth of the matter is this, it's not their fault, it's yours and yours alone.

    What was your answer to my second question? If it was a "yes" then the answer to question 1 was yes. If your answer to number 1 was no, then it's a highly likely to definitely that you didn't back anything up. Hence your fault, not anybody's at the NMM. This statement is backed up by the 4 news posts and the big red letters in the install process- which if you had read the posts, you would have known about.
    nahuelst wrote:
    Your great contribution "GENIUS" .....


    @mahueist

    I've got plenty of contributions to this thread, if you'd ever bother to read, like 95% percent of the people here have failed to do with the new NMM and it's 4 posts of explanations and big red letters of WARNING WARNING PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE CONTINUING.

    You really are just everybody else, "clicky clicky clicky...wait it broke! Now I have to go complain that it broke!"
  5. In response to post #29140199. #29142059 is also a reply to the same post.


    adamocelot wrote: As I read this post , once again I choke ,Why ? well ... all the complaining , let me ask did any us pay for this tool ,and did it come with a guarantee > Somewhere maybe ? ... nah .....
    Before we all pee our pants and sit in it and pout ,, let me ask this
    Do we know how to properly install and uninstall Skyrim mods without assistance of any sort , such as a mod organizer/manager ..whatever the tool preferred .. I know how to and I am sure many others do too.
    Do we understand the risk of complete game FUBAR from installing them or using anything other tool, addon, patcher,sorter, script tool or editor other than what came out of the box in our game on a computer .. I do , and I am sure many other users do too.
    These are the tools we ... WE choose to HELP simplify our Modding experience with . no one forced it on us.
    If your game installation breaks ... reinstall the game or mods .. load up that last good save ... and there ya go
    I think we all got really lazy and expected for too long a one button solution to mod installation ..
    Something went wrong with our toy and we are gonna stomp around till Ma or Da gets us a new one
    REALLY ?
    Over 4k I have in Skyrim I have had to reinstall the game more than 200 times ..atleast because I BROKE IT TO complete FUBAR ..and the best part I know I am gonna the more I tinker with it
    such is the life of a game modder
    I use these tools also.. you bet .. but I also know I am using them at my own risk
    C'mon its not a total loss ,reinstall and keep going

    nahuelst wrote: GOOGLE TRANSLATE

    I apologize but I disagree, this unholy version was designed only to test us, did not see the necessary warning: it was installing a new type of malware say, for what this failed quiz, had been excellent display a large window a red skull warning that the chances of ruining our games was almost total. And they warn you before and not nearly as when one is going to click install, middle guard. Do not be condescending when you used without adequate notice, time is money friend, and this is a lost time without asking. Obviously you have to defend yourself and not be stomping the head, without threats or grandstanding, only truths that are not recognized here. I wish that those who manage Nexus, Lanzen a new survey, this is now only a false statistics.
    Cone nor do I care not speak English speakers speak languages, use the Google God and paste below the translation in Castilian, so it does not lend itself to misinterpretation, but usually always understood, it is not infallible either. I do not hate anyone, I do not rebuke anyone xdxd, neither will I take for useful idiot.
    Greetings least one game.

    PS if you pay for a tool that works well, gladly would if I pound of these adversities, ergo, Windows ... hehe

    GOOGLE TRANSLATE

    GOOGLE TRANSLATE

    Disculpa pero no estoy de acuerdo, esta nefasta versión fué diseñada solamente para probarla con nosotros, NO vi la necesaria advertencía: que estaba instalando un NUEVO tipo de malware digamos, para lo que esta pruebita fallida, hubiera estado excelente que aparezca una gran ventana con una calavera roja advirtiendo que las probabilidades de arruinar nuestros juegos era casi total. Y que lo advierta ANTES y no casi ya cuando uno le va dar click de instalación, medio desprevenido. No seas condescendiente cuando te USAN sin avisar adecuadamente, el TIEMPO vale oro amigo, y este es un tiempo perdido sin pedirlo. Obviamente que hay que defenderse y no dejarse pisotear la cabeza, sin amenazas o grandilocuencia, sólo con verdades, que aquí no son reconocidas. Me gustaría que los que manejan Nexus, lanzen una nueva encuesta, la anterior es ahora solamente una falsa estádistica.
    Cono no hablo ni me interesa hablar lenguas angloparlantes, uso al Dios Google y pego debajo la traduccion en castellano, para que no se preste a malas interpretaciones, aunque siempre suele entenderse, no es tampoco infalible. No odio a nadie, no amenazaré a nadie xdxd, ni tampoco dejaré que me tomen por idiota útil.
    Menos en un juego Saludos.

    PD si hay que pagar por una herramienta que funcione bien, con gusto lo haría si me libra de estas adversidades, ergo, Windows...jeje

    GOOGLE TRANSLATE


    @mahueist

    You're in the minority here bud. Everybody that knows about modding and that knows what they're doing wouldn't be complaining and would have backed everything up without whining.

    You're the same as everybody else, a whiner and think there is a one button fix to everything. Go away.
  6. In response to post #29157714. #29164574, #29169754, #29180264 are all replies on the same post.


    Calystar wrote:

    Edit; i found the responses in the post from the front page.

     

    Also, i m going to buy fallout 4 in the next mounth.

     

    Someone know another mod manager that wont f*#@ up my ssd with exessive write and that will be compatible with fallout 4?

    jpitner wrote: I use Mod Organizer and have gone into the settings to save all my downloads that were stored on my SSD to one of my regular drives and this cleared a lot of space on the SSD. I am hoping MO will also work for my Fallout 4.
    PoisonerKA wrote: Your SSD should be fine.
    Belfaborac wrote: Why not just use both the old and new NMM side by side? The old one for all current games, the new one for FO4 and other future games?


    SSDs have a lot of I/O operations. Ignore most of what people say.

    It's long, but I encourage you to read it all. The samsung 840 Pro series survived pver 2 PB or Petabytes of read/write operations.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2856052/grueling-endurance-test-blows-away-ssd-durability-fears.html

    http://techreport.com/review/24841/introducing-the-ssd-endurance-experiment
  7. In response to post #29032194.


    Rsmirk wrote:

    Is anyone else having a huge issue with Sky UI not installing? I received an error stating that something was wrong with my skse scripts so I reinstalled skse and now skyui won't install when I attempt to in the NMM window. I've attempted to start my game and I get a CTD before the intro screen is even done loading.


    delete SKSE, uninstall and delete SkyUI and download fresh copies of both. install SKSE first, then SkyUI as I believe it requires SKSE to run.
  8. Everyone complaining about your system being borked. Two questions:

    1.) Did you read the 4 news posts and the big read letters in the install process?

    2.) Did you attempt to make any sort of backup? Saves, plugins, mods?

     

    Because i'm starting to laugh at everyone that's complaining about how their install blew up.

     

    I read everything and I'm still gaming as if nothing happened, with 3 new profiles utilizing the new feature. I've got 218 mods in NMM, roughly 174 to 183 active in the profiles. My only issue right now is everyone complaining at the NMM team, saying it's the team's fault. The truth of the matter is this, it's not their fault, it's yours and yours alone.

     

    What was your answer to my second question? If it was a "yes" then the answer to question 1 was yes. If your answer to number 1 was no, then it's a highly likely to definitely that you didn't back anything up. Hence your fault, not anybody's at the NMM. This statement is backed up by the 4 news posts and the big red letters in the install process- which if you had read the posts, you would have known about.

  9. In response to post #29044829. #29047964 is also a reply to the same post.


    DanielMarley wrote: Nexus MM is good when you got around 50 mods, after 100 it's just get messy, and after new version everything from install to uninstall takes huge amount of time. After Up NMM and hard uninstall of all mods everything went south. It takes NMM some 3h just to uninstall, after install, all scripts mods have been broken! No to mention waste of HDD space with mod folder and virtual mod folder. Now my skyrim takes around 40 GB and mod folder takes 30GB, virtual mod folder also 30GB. Who thought this will be convenient??
    Now I manually uninstall mods and I will never use NMM again, its a lot simpler and faster to just copy file into Skyrim folder. When NMM was released it was really smart and simple tool, but now it's just waste of time, broken tool that outlived its usefulness
    itsapainfulworld wrote: "Q. Mods are now taking up double the space with this version of NMM. Why is this?

    The short version: it's not.

    The long version: we're using a system in Windows known as hardlinks and symlinks (depending on whether you install to different hard-drives or not, NMM picks the best one for the task). Essentially, these are shortcuts that your operating system uses to stop the duplication of data while still presenting data in multiple folders. For example, your "Documents" folder in windows uses a similar sort of shortcut.

    Using this system, NMM installs your mods to a single folder you specify in the settings and then places shortcuts in your game folders pointing to where the mods actually are for the game you're using. The shortcuts in the mod folder look and act exactly how they would if the files themselves were in the mod folder, but they're not. This is what allows us to accommodate multiple profiles without continually installing and uninstalling mods, and in a quicker fashion than manually uninstalling and reinstalling the mods you want to use.

    The folder will make it look as though the shortcuts are taking up a lot of space, but they aren't. If you use 1GB of mods then NMM will still only use 1GB of space, not 2GB of space like a quick check might show. The easiest way to test is to check your available hard-drive space. It won't have increased any more than before."

    Either:

    A. Read

    Or

    B. Cease trolling and leave.


    @DanielMarley LOL. You have no clue what you're talking about.

    @itsapainfulworld LOL. excellent response.
  10. In response to post #29098379. #29113709 is also a reply to the same post.


    bben46 wrote:

    Updating is not required. You can still use the older version if you choose. Not supported just means the older version will no longer be getting regular updates as we just don't have the staff available to keep up with multiple versions. No updates also means it will not be updated to work with FO4 or any other new games that come out.

     

    I still use the old OBMM to manage Oblivion, Even though it is supported by NMM. running them both has not been a problem. I just don;t use the NMM for Oblivion.

     

    You can use both the old and new versions - rename one of them ( preferably the old one as renaming the new version will cause problems with future updates) And install the new in a different folder ( having both in the same folder will cause confusion) The new version will try to find your older games, just let it, it is not going to make any changes until you actually open that game using the new version, and then it will ask permission before doing anything.

     

    The big lesson here is don't just click yes to every pop up you see. READ them, Then wait and let what you read percolate through your brain cells for a minute before doing something you might regret.

    phantompally76 wrote: Why are you being so condescending? People are 100x more upset by the attitude of the moderators (as well as the site owner) throughout all this than they are about having to troubleshoot issues with the update. You're supposed to rise above your detractors, not stoop below their level. It's just so unprofessional and off-putting. By now you guys HAVE to realize that this should have been handled differently, and that instead of screaming "You're to blame because you didn't read closely enough", you should be saying "We're sorry for the inconvenience, and are working hard to correct the issue" like any other professional business that isn't actually trying to go bankrupt.


    @bben46 my apologies for blowing up your posting here, but I'm afraid this is necessary because I've seen too many people blasting the moderators about this update and I feel it's time that the record be set straight.
    @phantompally76:

    He's being condenscending because you and everybody else that are blasting the NMM team and the moderators are the ones that aren't doing your due diligence. You and everyone else claim that you haven't had ample warning. You claim that your skyrim install is ruined and you claim that you'll leave skyrim forever because of NMM destroying your game saves. The reality is, is that if you had read the warnings (I've linked them below), and performed backups of your save files, plugin lists and game data in general (there is a folder were NMM stores all plugins, I backed that folder up) You would have had everything safe guarded and when your install did crap out, you would simply reinstall, reorder, throw the save data into the appropriate folder and away you'd go gaming again.

    Instead, you all clicked without thinking, without reading and your install blew up. You have absolutely no room or right to go to the moderators and shout at them for not giving warnings or explaining things. So bben46 is in the right for that tone because you and everybody else ignored everything then complained.

    I read 95% of everything posted, backed up my saves, my mods and plugins and after everything was said and done, 1 mod didn't work. I looked at the mod's page, reported said issue that the NMM was giving me and within 72 hours the mod author had a work around. I applied said work around and now that mod is back in working order.

    I also went into the fray expecting 100% failure. I got less than 1% failure on my end. Do you know the actual failure rate of the new version of 0.60 when it was released to beta? less than One (1) half percent 40/8200=.00487. That's a fantastic failure rate when completely changing the foundation of how it works mods.

    I congratulate the moderators and the NMM team on their efforst and releasing so many patches so quickly. In-fact, I'm checking back to the site at least once a day looking for a new version to be released so that another bug that i haven't encountered is fixed and won't affect me.

    Warning and Introduction: NMM 0.60 alpha release with profiling, ready for testing 1/23/2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/news/12414/?

    Warning: Nexus Mod Manager V 0.60 alpha : Upgrading From v0.53 2/10/2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/news/12424/?

    Warning: NMM 0.60 beta released with profiling 9/17/2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/news/12569/?

    Warning: Update on NMM Version 0.60 and FAQ 9/18/2015 http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/news/12574/?

    4 news posts plus those BIG RED LETTERS in the install proceedure. Not enough warning? Then you shouldn't be using mods.

  11. In response to post #28829074. #28829199, #28833099 are all replies on the same post.


    Cylon123 wrote: This post made me realize that NexusMods is filled with idiots. If admins released an update, and it messed my game, i would NEVER blame them.Even if i had to reinstall all the mods for 3 days straight, i'd be cool with it, they invested/ and are still investing so much time in making this site and program more useful, and all you people do is b!tch about it.
    I think 20% of you people read the warning and said:"Whatever, its a new update i have to install it"
    and 50 % just went with it without even reading it and 30 % read it and saw the potential dangers for them and declined (like me).
    Whats even better is that people with 400+ mods aren't pissed, they will just silently reinstall all the mods, but people with 100- mods are outraged by this and are instantly sending death threats to good people at NexusMods.

    Think about what i just wrote and stop flaming admins because of spilled milk.
    MDeckman wrote: "Whats even better is that people with 400+ mods aren't pissed, they will just silently reinstall all the mods, but people with 100- mods are outraged by this and are instantly sending death threats to good people at NexusMods."

    LMAO! I know, right? I've got 174 mods and took all necessary precautions: mod and save backup.
    orb1akatsuki wrote: Lol and I thought that I was the only one, I create save back ups all the time for my games, heck I even archive my favorite mods that I downloaded here in the nexus and on other modding sites even though nmm already saves the mods in the specified folder where it saves downloaded mods. and yesterday, I was dead tired from work when I logged onto my computer, open my browser and checked nexus for any new mods that might interest me. Found one, opened the nmm, then the auto update prompted me if I wanted to update, then I updated, then the new nmm's pop up text opened, I was just to tired to read, so dahyum, I messed my game up lol.

    I ain't like other people that complains that something free messes up their game, and alas, nmm and a lot of the mods we get are free... I download mods, and endorse them to show my appreciation on their work and helping the game more fun.

    People needs to be more appreciative rather than yapping and crying for what they did wrong when upgrading, updating or installing a mod and third party software, its all trial and error, and honestly, I'd rather have trials and error rather than having the developers who made the games a lot more fun stop making things more convenient for us gamers. If they do stop, then I guess the only ones to blame are us that who did not supported them and thrash talked at them and etc...


    No no, you're definitely not the only one. I do the same: i archive mods and saves because it shows the progress and I'm a digital pack rat.
  12. In response to post #28829074.


    Cylon123 wrote: This post made me realize that NexusMods is filled with idiots. If admins released an update, and it messed my game, i would NEVER blame them.Even if i had to reinstall all the mods for 3 days straight, i'd be cool with it, they invested/ and are still investing so much time in making this site and program more useful, and all you people do is b!tch about it.
    I think 20% of you people read the warning and said:"Whatever, its a new update i have to install it"
    and 50 % just went with it without even reading it and 30 % read it and saw the potential dangers for them and declined (like me).
    Whats even better is that people with 400+ mods aren't pissed, they will just silently reinstall all the mods, but people with 100- mods are outraged by this and are instantly sending death threats to good people at NexusMods.

    Think about what i just wrote and stop flaming admins because of spilled milk.


    "Whats even better is that people with 400+ mods aren't pissed, they will just silently reinstall all the mods, but people with 100- mods are outraged by this and are instantly sending death threats to good people at NexusMods."

    LMAO! I know, right? I've got 174 mods and took all necessary precautions: mod and save backup.
  13. To all of those who are complaining about a ruined game or saves destroyed or having no ample warning about the possibility of all of the above:

     

    You were all warned, several times, in several locations.

    If you didn't take the necessary precautions of backing up your saves, mods and game data, that's YOUR fault and nobody else's.

    If you didn't read ANY of the posts about the new updates, that are ALWAYS on the FRONT page, that's your fault.

    That's why I backed up aALL my current saves on a DIFFERENT hard drive, backed up all my CURRENT mods to a different hard drive, and read through BOTH posts by the moderators about the 1/2 of a percent chance that something could go wrong including A, B, And C issues.

     

    Hell, I archive old and new saves and make a periodic backup of my mods because of something that may or may not go wrong. And with such a complex game, why wouldn't I?

     

    And right now, it's installing my mods. Do I expect a perfect upgrade? No. If i get a perfect upgrade, major Kudos to the entire Nexus staff/team.

  14. In response to post #28827054. #28827244, #28828699 are all replies on the same post.


    Siddny wrote: I lost 3 saves over 2 games going well over 300+ hours because you didn't think to put in an option to keep everything the way it was for the time being, if you had done that everything would be fine right now but you didn't so here we are.
    Kintsy wrote: They did - it was called saying no to the update, which I did, lol. Try reading the warning next time...?
    xRoxel wrote: You can quite easily revert to get those back...


    I backed up my saves and mods, knowing that there was a chance my entire installation could go belly. it's your own fault you didn't back anything up. They even gave warnings...excessive warnings and you still ignored it all.

    Serves you right.
  15. In response to post #28828379.


    orb1akatsuki wrote: Wow, people are still at it? Damn people, calm your t**s down, I've also had problems with the latest nmm, all my 255 plugins, 467 mods that were installed are completely messed up because just like with the mass majority, I did not read the pop up text and options regarding the installation and stuff, yet, am I complaining? No, its just a god damn game people, its not like its gonna kill y'all over some mishaps.

    Cussing, threatening, and death threats? Come on people, you don't like what went wrong, then find another game to play with, better yet, get your fat a****s out of that chair and take a walk in a park or something for a change.


    Exactly my feelings. I'm used to reinstalls because of something grossly screwing up. I have time and i'm prepared for it.

    After all, it's just a game.
  16. In response to post #28819919.


    TheThirdRace wrote: First thing first, I want to say how much I appreciate your work on these sites. You're doing an awesome job, keep up the good work.

    Now, there's something that irks me a bit with how you envision the whole NMM BETA situation. You firmly believe that labelling a software as BETA is warning enough.

    The truth is, it's not. Any software in BETA phase for more than 6 months is gonna be perceived as a final product. People do understand what BETA means, they're fully aware there might be problems when they first install your software.

    Then, time goes on and users see things are working pretty good, they have nothing to really complain about and their perception goes from BETA to "Yet Another Lazy GMail BETA tag". I mention GMail here because it became a joke after being in BETA for more than 2 years. GMail was already rock solid after 3 months, yet Google believed that labelling it BETA would relieve them from any responsibilities/expectations... they couldn't be more wrong. People used their product on a daily basis, they still do, because that was the only version available and they became dependent. Any hiccups at that point would obviously stir a commotion.

    NMM has been in BETA for more than 4 years, if you believe people perceive it as a BETA you're disconnected from reality on that point. You would have to either release it as a "BETA of BETA", an Alpha, an "Experimental version", anything that would tell people "we really mean it this time". Because right now, you cried wolf for 4+ years and people don't believe you anymore.

    The other problem with perception is your revision number. It's pretty old school, I don't mind it that much, but if a product is below revision 1.0.0 for more than a year while being supported constantly, people expect it to fully work. Again, it's perceived as crying wolf and it's not cutting it anymore after 4+ years. Had you release version 0.5x as 1.0 and release 0.6 as 1.1 BETA, you wouldn't be in that position today.

    No amount of "clarification" will work at this point. People ARE lazy, they see a new version, they don't even check the release notes anymore. They expect the new version of their "final" product to work just the same as the version they're using. Technically, it's not your fault, you're pretty straight forward about the fact it's a BETA with all the problems it could ensue, but public perception isn't on the same page as you are. That's a battle you can't win unless you put a tremendous amount of efforts to reverse the tide. At this point, the tide is more like a tsunami, good luck if you want to change it...

    If I were you, I'd just bend to the public opinion in this case. I would simply rename NMM versions so it's clear you have a current branch and a BETA branch. I know you'd love to have version 1.0 to be the new UI and all, but you'll need to realize people don't care if they install version 1.0 or 34.5 at this point. They just want to know what is the current "stable" version and which version is a real BETA. You're overcomplicating things and you're reaping what you sow.

    Anyway, that's just me playing devils advocate. I love the way this site is running. I think you have a pretty levelled headed team and you're doing great things for the community. Don't take my comment as anything bad, I'm not even remotely angry with the current situation, I didn't even installed NMM in the last 2 years. I just thought it would be a good opportunity to do a wake up call to you guys on something you've let on the back burner for too long now.


    While you played devil's advocate, you should play devil's advocate to VLC too. They were under version 1.0 for 13 years. VLC is in roughly the same boat.
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    We've update the image gallery on file pages so you can use the arrow keys again.

     

    We are currently rolling out 8 new static content servers to try and resolve the issues with images loading slowly for people.

     

    Thank you for reinstating this feature. And if the images load slowly, they load slowly. Half of the time, it's the internet connection the user has and how they have their signal bouncing around.

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