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@Billybish0p Did you have any luck with this?

Just checking in to see if these thoughts went anywhere

a little bumpybump There are already mods that change these animations, surely those can be adapted?

This is super promising!

That's so funny to hear because I've had really positive results with them in previous games. Is it possible that you are universalising a negative experience that you've had?

Save games get filled up with loose references and become unusable. Apparently starting NG+ fixes this, but I'm in no position to try even if I wanted to do that. Currently I can't save. We've had utilities for previous Bethesda games that could clean up the broken bits in save files and solve issues like this. Is there anything in anyone's pipeline along similar lines here?

How?! the camera change button didn't work for me lol!

I'm not sure where the absolute certainty comes from that we will never want the option to drive a vehicle in first person, but Bethesda seem to have fallen into the same trap as many other game developers. The constant quest to find new ways to shove us out of 1st person if that's our preferred play style is starting to drag a bit! Workbenches, Ladders, Chairs, and now this! Is there anyone who can fix any of these?

"For Oblivion, (i think it was...) They did a 'fake first person', and just put the third person camera right behind the eyes of the body. That actually worked reasonably well." Yes, that's literally all any of the previous mods have been. they exist for Oblivion and Skyrim and Fallout 3 expressly because they just used the 3rd person models and animations. Nobody is suggesting completely re-animating the entire game. This is something that has been achieved before.

Sounds like an extension to Universal Stash could be the thing here?

Feels more GTA/Saints Row TBH

Hi All, What do we think the chances are of someone being able to make the player's body visible in 1st person, like the Enhanced 1st Person/joy of Perspective type mods for Oblivion/skyrim/fallout3 etc? Also, while we're at it, something to keep the camera in 1st person when sitting down or stepping up to a workbench?

Now that the creation kit is out and modding has accelerated again, maybe this has become more feasable?

Just gonna bump this because I'm bored,

Yes! This and not being kicked out of First Person every time we interact with furnishings.

It already has it https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/7197

Completely broken feature. Tried it out today and this absolute disaster ensued: It insisted on redownloading SFSE and Plugins.txt enabler, causing conflicts with my existing installs of those. It reordered all my mods alphabetically so my load order is ruined and the game won't start. It switched itself off when I came back to it after fixing the SFSE and Plugins enable conflicts. Switching it back on required redownloading the two utilities again, bringing back the conflict i had just fixed. Went back to mods list and completely removed SFSE etc. Went back, it was off, turned it back on, reinstalled the utilities, not conflict because I had got rid of them completely Load order still ruined can't run game. Repeat several times. Still can't actually play. Can't even use the feature to fix my load order as it needs a full reinstall of SFSE and PTE every time i look away for thirty seconds. Help?

That's awesome buddy I'm really happy for you well done.

So, we have a mod that lets you take off and land in first person (cockpit) view, and a mod that lets you have conversations without any forced camera lurching, so the techniques are known. Could there be a mod that keeps you in first person view for the sequences where you get into the cockpit, sit on a chair, climb a ladder, or start using a workbench? I already have the mod that speeds these up, but they're still immersion breaking. A decent placeholder alternative until more mod tools become available would be to remove them all (probably except the ladder one) entirely, as even a jump cut would be more immersive than suddnely watching yourself do things when you've been seeing through your own eyes the rest of the time. I have no idea why Bethesda decided it would be a good idea to go to the effort of forcing people out of their preferred view!

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Ah, yes. took that out and the problem went away. Thanks JohnnynRoger

Title says it all, really. When I draw my weapon, the animation plays twice. I had the same problem years ago in original Skyrim, and i remember that the fix was comically simple, I just can't remember what it was! (The old Bethesda forum I found the fix on no longer seems to exist) Here's my load order: GameMode=SkyrimSE Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1SkyMoMod.esm=1Campfire.esm=1Hair Replacer.esp=1Hair Replacer Assets.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1FNIS.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Extended.esp=1RLO - Interiors.esp=1RLO - Effects.esp=1RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=13DNPC.esp=1RLO - Exteriors.esp=1Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Holidays.esp=1Monster Mod - Musume Edition.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Joy of Perspective.esp=1VioLens SE.esp=1VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp=0JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1Better Harvesting.esp=1Footprints.esp=1Backshields.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp=1Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=1RLO - IC Patch.esp=1RWT Lod Fix.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Ashbound.esp=1SovngardeNordHeroes.esp=1FemArmorOverhaul.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1SkyUI_SE.esp=1 Can anyone help?

The title says it all, really. Whenever i draw my weapon the animation happens twice. This is with SE. I had this issue in the normal version once, ages ago, and I remember it had a ridiculously simple fix, but I can't remember what it was. my load order: GameMode=SkyrimSE Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Dawnguard.esm=1HearthFires.esm=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1SkyMoMod.esm=1Campfire.esm=1Hair Replacer.esp=1Hair Replacer Assets.esp=1Dr_Bandolier.esp=1FNIS.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Extended.esp=1RLO - Interiors.esp=1RLO - Effects.esp=1RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp=1Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=13DNPC.esp=1RLO - Exteriors.esp=1Settlements Expanded SE.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1Holidays.esp=1Monster Mod - Musume Edition.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp=1Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp=1Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp=1WeaponsOf3E_SSE.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Joy of Perspective.esp=1VioLens SE.esp=1VioLens SE - Book Menu.esp=0JoP - Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1Better Harvesting.esp=1Footprints.esp=1Backshields.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1RealisticSpeedMovementWalkingSE.esp=1Open Cities Skyrim.esp=1Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - iNeed.esp=1RealisticWaterTwo - Open Cities.esp=1RLO - IC Patch.esp=1RWT Lod Fix.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1Ashbound.esp=1SovngardeNordHeroes.esp=1FemArmorOverhaul.esp=1Frostfall.esp=1SkyUI_SE.esp=1Animations.esp=1