Thats actually exactly what I'm looking for, thankyou! In regards to the Enclave discussion. Eh, I guess thats true, but if NV was also independent, the PC should probably have the choice (if the Enclave did move back west, or atleast a few splinters of it) to eat them up and recruit them in some fashion. Afterall, what rising power wouldnt want already highly trained military leaders to help with the administration, not to mention the tech that comes with the Enclave. Hm...on one hand, Enclave troops serving NV would deter both Legion and NCR from attacking, after all, Caesar (if hes still alive) is no fool. He has no doubt heard of the Enclave, and Veronica mentions at Helios-1 that for every BOS lost, the NCR lost 10 men. Imagine that number tripled or more considering how effective APA MKII is, not including Tesla and Hellfire, along with Plasma weaponry. The Legion also just lost the dam (possibly) so they would need a looongg while to lick their wounds...Again. NCR would probably not want to engage in another bloody war so soon after coming out of the last one, espacially with the threats of the Legion so fresh on their mind. On the other hand, it might "provoke" NCR to attack, so they can wipe out what they belive to be the last of their hated enemies. Would definately make for a tenious politcal and diplomatic situation.