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Completely possible, would you happen to know if it's safe to change the load order mid-game? (not currently sure about that Yes it's in general OK to change your load order mid game (with the exception of removing some mods that imbed info into the the ESS save file). Note that BOSS is no longer updated so it will be necessary to create User Rules for newer unrecognized mods. Not a big deal if you are used to manually sorting (the same general rules for load order still apply). I also open the BOSS list in Notepad to use it as a guide (looking for mods similar to the unrecognized one). That is good to know, better to avoid another restart if possible. Might not need manual sorting if LOOT can do the job, assuming it's "compatible" with Oblivion and up to date.

Completely possible, would you happen to know if it's safe to change the load order mid-game? (not currently sure about that)

Don't have MessageLogger, will downloadYes, everything is cleanedLoad order is manually sorted (don't trust LOOT with these things)Not using ObMM, using MO2 instead (is there an alternative program to check for these conflicts?)

Greetings, I've been modding Oblivion and had constant issues with random crashes (ctd's, at an unplayable rate) & thus far haven't been able to figure out why. Before looking into things further I'm making this post, in the event someone with knowledge on this topic could spot any issues, namely on the load order which has been pasted below. (such as any mods that are known to be too heavy/crash inducing, or the lack of mods which are designed to prevent said crashes). The following OBSE plugins are also installed, they are not visible on the main load order: - Engine Bug Fixes - Oblivion Stutter Remover - OSR Optimized Modern Quad Core 2 - Blockhead - MenuQue - Console Paste - OBME - SkyBSA - Add Actor Values - Ingredient Jars - Enchanced Camera - Show Weapons While Mounted Any help is appreciated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Load Order: Oblivion.esm IngredientJars.esm Cobl Main.esm Fundament.esm All Natural Base.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Knights.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Cobl Si.esp Cobl Glue.esp Bundlement.esp Extended UI.esp Consistent Beggar Voices.esp Symphony of Violence.esp GOSH.esp GOSH - All Natural Patch.esp nu_female_player_idle.esp SpellSinger.esp LegionInteractAnims.esp MigWolfRestore.esp All Natural.esp All Natural - SI.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Unique Landscapes.esp Grass Overhaul.esp Falling Leaves.esp PTFallingStars.esp SnowGusts.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Real Lava 1.3.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp More Magical Mages Guilds Clean.esp Better Abandoned House.esp Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix.esp Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp hackdirtabyss.esp Glowing Wonders.esp SkycaptainsBloodTime.esp Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp Glowing Fractured Soulgems.esp Initial Glow Redux.esp Initial Glow Redux - Creatures.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp Better Atronachs.esp ImprovedSigns.esp Reworked Posts.esp RoadLights.esp Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp Alluring Wine Bottles.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOOShiveringIsles.esp OOOShiveringIsles_OCO_Patch.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp Cobl Tweaks - OOO.esp Ultimate Leveling.esp LegionCombatAdditions.esp EnhancedMountedCombat.esp SupremeMagickaLite.esp EnchantmentMastery.esp Complete Enchantment Overhaul.esp More Effective Enchantments.esp Soulgem Magic.esp RshAlchemy.esp RshAlchemyRecipes.esp MercerIngredientsCore.esp MercerIngredientsMaskarsOO.esp MercerIngredientsOOO.esp AliveWaters.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp Alive Waters Ingredients Patch.esp Enhanced Economy.esp PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp Mages Guild Quests.esp Fighters Guild Quests.esp bladesfactionmod.esp Nekhanimal's Awesome Vampire Mod.esp NekhanimalLifeDetect.esp NAVM GREETING fix.esp GuildAdvancement.esp P1DkeyChain.esp Oblivion Subtle Sprint.esp Retroactive Health.esp Lava Does Fire Damage.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp Command Mount.esp Knights Infamy.esp Practical Training.esp Actually Valuable Valuables.esp StolenItemOwnership.esp Rebalanced and Unleveled QGR.esp RebalancedArenaGoldRewards.esp Map Marker Overhaul.esp Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp BookTrackerUpdatedv1.1.esp Birthsign Zero.esp Birthsigns Expanded.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp OCO DLC Faces.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Nightmist Manor.esp Nightmist Manor - AN Patch.esp Vanilla Gear Redux.esp nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp strTrollfstaffreplacer.esp Artifacts Redone.esp Unique Artifacts for Unique People.esp BetterLegendaryItems.esp OCOv2 - Filter Patch for Mods.esp OCO Elf Eyes Fix.esp OCO_Eyes_Fix.esp Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp FormID Finder4.esp Purge Cell Buffers ++.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Synx.esp Plate of the Shadow.esp extavegant masks.esp Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

Drivers are up to date Here is the load order: Oblivion.esm Better Cities Resources.esmDLCShiveringIsles.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCFrostcrag.espKnights.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espP1DkeyChain.espSounds of Cyrodiil.espSounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.espSounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.espSounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.espSymphony of Violence.espOblivion XP.espMidasSpells.espMalevolent.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Weather_by_Max_Tael_RD.espGrass Overhaul.espGrass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.espUnique Landscapes.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulAncientYews.espxulArriusCreek.espxulAspenWood.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulChorrolHinterland-BC6.espxulCliffsOfAnvil.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxuldarkforest.espxulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulImperialIsle.espxulJerallGlacier.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulPantherRiver.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRiverEthe.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulSilverfishRiverValley.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulSnowdale.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheEasternPeaks.espxulTheHeath.espULS BetterCitiesBravil-BravilBarrowfields patch.espULS BetterCitiesBruma-Snowdale patch.espULS BetterCitiesCheydinhal-CheydinhalFalls patch.espULS BetterCitiesSkingrad-SkingradOutskirts patch.espBetter Cities .espBetter Cities Full.espBetter Imperial City.espBetter Cities - IC Imperial Isle.espBetter Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.espImproved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.espReal Lava 1.3.espAlluring Potion Bottles v3.espAlluring Wine Bottles.espImprovedSigns.espVA_BetterGold.espOblivion_Character_Overhaul.espMaleBodyReplacerV5.espSynx.espnu_dwarven_f_cuirass.espNightshade_Armor.espBashed Patch, 0.esp I removed oblivion reloaded completely and changed the enb, still no effect, nothing makes a change to the shading, very strange.

Greetings, I'm having a problem with the graphics on a modded Oblivion, seeing from the attached images the shaders are not working quite correctly. Any mods that I have (and are aware of) that could affect this are ENB, Oblivion Reloaded and Natural Envronments (unsure about the last one). I am using Mod Organizer 2. Disabling all of the above hasn't changed anything with the graphics which is the reason for this topic, I have no further ideas on what could cause this at the moment. https://pasteboard.co/JGjwZJ2.bmp https://pasteboard.co/JGjxcGy.bmp

Got it, I'll rearrange those and yes, that would be smartest. I'm still wondering why fo3edit doesn't give any errors, whenever a plugin has been an issue it has always notified of that, in New Vegas and Skyrim that is.

I manually ordered the loadlist into this, using your instructions, didn't fix the issue. Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmaHUD.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmCRAFT.esmCALIBR.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmEVE.esmProject Beauty.esmHairPack.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).espAlt Start Weapons - FWE.espWeaponModKits.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espRH_FWE_Bridge.espRH_WMK_Bridge.espRH_EVE_Bridge.espFellout-Full.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espFellout-pipboylight.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRealistic Interior Lighting - PL.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espFlora Overhaul.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espChems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.espmajormodder's Junk Food to Barbeque Crisps.esphair_add_npc.espeyes_hairpack_en.espType6 Combat Uniform.espNEVECv1.esp1PipboyPDA.espDarNifiedUIF3.esp

Can't trust LOOT I see, load order needs fixing then, I'll tell if that fixes the issue. And yes, I launched the game before modding and no, not installed in program files, I'm not that new to modding. Fallout 3 has always given more trouble than others for some reason.

Hi there modders, I've stumbled upon this strange issue while modding Fallout 3. I'm using Mod Organizer 2. The game simply crashes on startup (while loading the main menu, showing the "please stand by" screen), I've checked everything, it's not enb, not 4gb patch, not ini files and not mods either, at least not according to fo3edit. The only way the game works is through steam, using the game launcher. That would indicate that mods are the problem but again, fo3edit says otherwise. I'm not sure what the problem here is, any pointers are appreciated. Mods just in case: Fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmaHUD.esmCALIBR.esmCRAFT.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esmDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmProject Beauty.esmEVE.esmFO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.espHairPack.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esm1PipboyPDA.espFellout-Full.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.espWeaponModKits.espRH_WMK_Bridge.espWeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.espRealistic Interior Lighting.espAlt Start Weapons - FWE.espChems and Meds Re-Textures Pack.espDarNifiedUIF3.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espeyes_hairpack_en.espFellout-Anchorage.espFellout-BrokenSteel.espFellout-pipboylight.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espFellout-PointLookout.espFellout-Zeta.espFlora Overhaul.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.espRH_FWE_Bridge.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esphair_add_npc.espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).espFO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.espmajormodder's Junk Food to Barbeque Crisps.espRealistic Interior Lighting - PL.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_EVE_Bridge.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espNEVECv1.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espRealistic Interior Lighting - BS.espRealistic Interior Lighting - OA.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espType6 Combat Uniform.espWeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.espWeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.espWeaponModKits - ThePitt.espWeaponModKits - Zeta.espWeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp