HI GUYS Hmmmm... i followed that, but i did not see it ADD, OAF to the beginning of the saved game name,. I opened up the game and gate opened up though Should I still save the .obse file name as well and add OAF_ ? THANKS edit; I saved it to 'OAF_' ANYWAY AND IT DID NOT SHOW THE 'OAF_ so i presume thats ok it works anyway, so am happy :) So if it happens again, should I just follow same procedure? thanks again guys