As far as I'm concerned you can take Battlefield and CoD and put them in a resceptical that is bomb and fireproof and destroy them completely. I detest them as my boys become total nutters when playing them and invariably end up falling out with each other, their friends and total strangers :( Nightmare games both (well any game that promotes mindless violence under the heading of Real Time play... RPGs may have violence, bad language and, in some cases sex, but they are played for the enjoyment of the game not the killing. The story and the relevent options are the be all and end all of the game not the killing of as many peeps as you can. Ok rant over... I win :D