TheFallofApril

Bringing this topic back up again after another six months. (Summer went by so quickly this year). Will install Starfield again when the DLC comes out, bought it anyway. It will probably be a good one. What do you guys think about the state of Starfield modding now? I saw a decent amount of new mods been released since the ck dropped, but there was not this one mod that made me reinstall the game (the one that added more content for outposts was the most interesting in my opinion). I really miss animation mods ( I hate the running animation) and more haircuts (seriously everyone uses Sarah´s haircut or a variant of it).

For me Starfield was the disappointment of 2023. But: the last update was the first time since launch that Bethesda gave everyone the impression that they are still alive and working on the game. The updates actually made a difference and many players came back. Starfield has way more players right now than other hyped games like Dragon´s Dogma 2 or Enshrouded, games that were released this year. The number of mods for Starfield is amazing for a "game". But not great for a Bethesda game. So I agree with Tonicmole here, Starfield is not in the same league with this two games and it most likely never will.

Looks much better than the old version. Was worth the wait.

The number of mods already went down from over a thousand a week to under 100. That is a massive decrease. Still there are great mods being released on a weekly basis that fix many annoying things in the base game. They just don´t get much attention due to the relatively small user base the game still has. Four months after release the biggest game of 2023 (at least in terms of marketing, hype, expectations) hardly has over 15.000 players on Steam. The two best ways to increase the player numbers again is a steep discoint (the game is already available for under 40 €/$) and working extremely hard, patching the game, releasing new features and giving the fan base the feeling that the devs actually care.

It was a huge mistake from Bethesda to not release the CK together with the game. My guess is that they are planning a big creation club type thing for Starfield, Skyrim and FO4 combined that needs a lot of preparation. Until it is out next year, most people have moved on from the game already. That includes modders and mod-creators. They don't release the modding tools with the game, as that complicates their bug hunt. After all, several million players are going to find more bugs than the comparatively few play-testers used in-house. I think the last time the CK came with the game, was Morrowind..... :D Was fixing bugs not the job of the mod-creators anyway with Bethesda games? ;)

It was a huge mistake from Bethesda to not release the CK together with the game. My guess is that they are planning a big creation club type thing for Starfield, Skyrim and FO4 combined that needs a lot of preparation. Until it is out next year, most people have moved on from the game already. That includes modders and mod-creators.

I know that it is tempting to compare this two games, but there are major differences. Skyrim was already a great game when it lauched in 2011. Starfield is a mediocre game. Skyrim is an exception. Fallout 4 is a better comparison for Starfield in my opinion. I hope that you are right, but I am not sure, if it´s realistic expectations.

Fo4 fully modded in 2023 is a much better game than Starfield right now. Fo4 also has Far Harbor and to a lesser degree Nuka World. Starfield needs some expansions on that level to make this "universe" actually interesting.