Trandoshan
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Tons of people aren't on the list. If push comes to shove, and more people want to be on the list, remove me from the list and add someone more worthy.
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@ Hoshi
ahahaha that does come from such a awfully strong head dont you poeple realise
anyway human + being
human dies
is a process
the being simply is
secret is
human and being is no diffrence
cannot ever be
water to water
this other is called duality drug
everyhtign in life has two opposites
one canont exist without the other
for instance
you cannot have a front without a back
easy peasy
this is the entry point where can strip away
and really be smart
like the babylon story go seven room and each room have to drop one accesior as in a metaphorical sense
:wink:
and the clouds do it too so why cant humanity
the cow doesnt try to be something else either
so seee
another take on that
babylon and cows riding on clouds
dare someone mock em with cheese
I can't help but see that you like to speak in a strange Haiku pattern, Hoshi. Your riddles take me more than an afternoon to understand. :confused:
I'm again going to try and understand what you are saying, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Your post was taking a stab at the 'Human' aspect of time. You related Human to 'BEING'. Not in the sense of Human-being, but in the sense 'to be'. I believe your argument is the same as because we exist, it exists. Time is what we perceive as every moment before our eventual death. Fair.
We Exist, just as water exists. Humans are Humans and Water is Water. Time is just Time. We think little about it because it is a natural aspect of Humanity. Which is true, even the peoples of ancient times knew the seasons, and understood day and night.
Duality Drug. Based on what you say, and my knowledge of what a Drug Duality Reaction is. I'd say you are saying something about every positive action may have an adverse reaction. I can't fit this in the debate... I apologize for being unable to understand. After all, there is no opposite of time save the absence of time, which is impossible.
I have no concept of the rest until you say this.
and the clouds do it too so why cant humanity
the cow doesnt try to be something else either
The reason you post here is a testament to why humanity can be anything it wants. A cow does not try to be something else because it can't. The cow, and cloud are both doomed to death, as we are. Everything has a ticking clock that determines when we can not function. In a poetic sense, humanity has tried to remove the clock from existence by trying to find eternal life. The fountain of youth, for example, was a prime target for the Spanish when they came to the Americas. What you were trying to say is that Humanity tries hard to keep their time going forever but sadly cannot. We should just accept our fate, which is death, like everything else on this earth.
Time is truly inescapable. Gilgamesh did try to escape his fate when he took the challenge to stay awake for seven days, but his failure made the reader realize that immortality is a fool's game. This was the Babylonian story you were referring to, I believe. It was relevant anyways.
Thanks for another good-old fashioned mind-rape, Hoshi. I hate not being able to understand someone.
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SCN zzArmorDamageThroughMagic float CurrentSpellEffect ref CurrentTop ref CurrentBottom float CurrentTopHP float CurrentBottomHP float DamageToArmor1 float DamageToArmor2 float MagicEffectChooser float DamageEffectStage float CurrentLevel float CurrentAgility begin GameMode set CurrentAgility to player.getav agility / 2 set CurrentLevel to player.getlevel set CurrentTop to player.getequippedobject 2 set CurrentBottom to player.getequippedobject 3 set CurrentTopHP to player.GetObjectHealth CurrentTop set CurrentBottomHP to player.GetObjectHealth CurrentBottom if player.hasmagiceffect FIDG == 1 set MagicEffectChooser to 1 elseif player.hasmagiceffect FRDG == 1 set MagicEffectChooser to 2 elseif player.hasmagiceffect SHDG == 1 set MagicEffectChooser to 3 else return endif if MagicEffectChooser == 1 || MagicEffectChooser == 2 || MagicEffectChooser == 3 set DamageToArmor1 to -CurrentBottomHP / (CurrentAgility + CurrentLevel) set DamageToArmor2 to -CurrentTopHP / (CurrentAgility + CurrentLevel) player.modobjecthealth DamageToArmor1 CurrentBottom player.modobjecthealth DamageToArmor2 CurrentTop set MagicEffectChooser to 0 endif end
Gentlemen?
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Right, but you know me. I think. I love the old stuff. Good Times :cry: .
Somebody has to be the champion of feudalism!!! I'm trying to be chivalric...
In reality, I don't think I could make a real decision. In their purest forms, they might just work. However, such a thing does not exist. I've made my argument, and I can't wait to see what everyone will make of it.
Till then,
TD
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@Nosisab
American Capitalism was based a little on Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection. The survival of the fittest. I can see where that point has merit. More than a little, at the most!
Erm, hate to say it, but you have a few mistakes there... Survival of the fittest isn't Darwin, and doesn't really have much to do with American Capitalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
Capitalism rather is driven by a balance between supply and demand, with one or both often being subject to manipulation by those in power to remain in power. It is not survival of the fittest, but rather survival of those who are selected for survival by those who have already survived until that thing can be bought out or replaced. Even good companies can go bankrupt because of external influences in the marketplace.
found something to prove myself.
http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/
"Suppose a member of a species developed a functional advantage (it grew wings and learned to fly). Its offspring would inherit that advantage and pass it on to their offspring. The inferior (disadvantaged) members of the same species would gradually die out, leaving only the superior (advantaged) members of the species."
this is survival of the fittest, based on my knowledge of 'survival of the fittest'. I could be wrong though.
On Capitalism being related to Survival of the fittest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest
I read it, and it accredits the term to Darwin. Did I miss something? Please tell me. I shall quote the following lines from this web-page
"Herbert Spencer first used the phrase - after reading Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species - in his Principles of Biology (1864), in which he drew parallels between his own economic theories and Darwin's biological ones, writing “This survival of the fittest, which I have here sought to express in mechanical terms, is that which Mr. Darwin has called 'natural selection', or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life."[1]
Darwin first used Spencer's new phrase "survival of the fittest" as a synonym for "natural selection" in the fifth edition of On the Origin of Species, published in 1869.[2][3] Darwin meant it as a metaphor for "better adapted for immediate, local environment", not the common inference of "in the best physical shape" [4]. Hence, it is not a scientific description,[5] and is both incomplete and misleading."
and for it being related to capitalism... I shall raise you five bucks Vagrant!
http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=454
Edit: I know, I know. Charles Darwin did not COIN the term Survival of the Fittest, but his works were used in the making of it....
So technically, you are right Vagrant.
Also, the capitalism I was speaking about wasn't American Capitalism, but the form that sprang up right after Industrialization began. It was the form that subjugated many African Nations, and helped economically control China for so long.
Sorry if I misunderstood.
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@Trandoshan
Ok, for sake of arument ...name a country with a current feudal economic system that is in force. Just curious beacuse I couldn't. :whistling:
Alright, you win. No feudalism in today's era. I was thinking in the past, when all of the major countries were feudalistic. Fuedalism is flawed, and it has evolved. You gotta hand it to me, I had the guts to stand up for it.
You do agree that it does have an economic influence on the countries in the past, do you not? Land-Lords and Nobles using the products that the peasants produced, and selling them elsewhere to pay the king's high tax burden. :tongue:
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@Nosisab
American Capitalism was based a little on Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection. The survival of the fittest. I can see where that point has merit. More than a little, at the most!
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It's the most natural system. You're out in the wild, you're running to slow (for whatever reason), and you get eaten. EVENTUALLY the system MIGHT work itself out. Think about it, is all of the poorer people decided (quite rightly) that they couldn't afford children, eventually the only people left would be the rich, who could feed off each other perpetually.
The problem with this, is that the rich thrive on the business it gets from the poor. If a few select rich survive, then they will have nobody to buy their mass-produced product. In your scenario, it would be the rich 'predator' starving out due to a lack of poor 'prey'. All forms of economy need both a lower and upper class. The lower class to labor, and the upper class to lead.
I was discussing with my teacher about this, and he pointed out that with any form of economics, there will always be elite. Even if the original doctrine seems kosher, humans will always change it for their benefit. There can never be a society with a total upper-class. It's impossible. It's the same reason why there can be no total Lower-Class. Economics is a delicate balance between the two.
So far, capitalism has done well in balancing it out. Then again, it will always depress, and then again crest. Economics is like that. I wonder when the economic cycle will crash against some unknown form of barrier, and end capitalism in the U.S.
Also note that Europe was once mostly capitalistic in the west, they are now mostly socialist. Socialism seems to be an evolution of capitalism, as capitalism was an evolution of feudalism.
sorry for the spelling, I was in a rush to get the first post in.
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@Maxwell
I do not think that Feudalism is as viable a candidate as Mercantilism.
Mercantilism would be defined as type of economic nationalism with a protective bent towards it's own industries. There are many more of the latter than the former in our current time.
Feudalism, communism, capitalism, and socialism are forms of 'economic governance'. Not government as a whole per say, but more of the financial aspect of that government. For instance, feudalism would run well with monarchy. Capitalism with democracy. It is obvious they both command difference as Capitalism is NOT democracy, but they are usually seen together in today's era.
That is my educated guess in support of feudalism being viable. All four of them have a social structure involved. I link them all due to this.
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It doesn't have to be perfect for someone to support it. Take a side and defend it! Don't do it because you believe in it, do it because you feel sorry for it. Lets get this debate rolling.
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This was the hardest choice I've ever had to make. But I decided based on the #of hours each has destroyed in my life.
Blizzard: a whopping hour almost.
Capcom: 60+ hours
Bethesda Softworks: 700+ hours
Creative Assembly: 1300+ hours
Nintendo: around 1500+ hours
Square Enix: 3000+ hours
Dark0ne Studios: 500,000,000 hours (A.K.A. My life, but the 'Nexus Forums' game is really good)
(All values are random, there is no possible way I could spend more than 10 minutes on any blizzard game... seriously.)
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Bah, I tried to have fun with this one. I guess I have to get all 'serious' again....
I think the best would be a mixture like VagrantO said, but even then, there would be those who are above the laws and get rich without moving a damn finger like it always happened. The laws of nature are more evident for people than for all the rest, even if most are masked and few ever notice what's going on. The ignorance level is just incredible and people like to thing they got the freedom their ancestors fought for thousands of years ago. Truth is, there are more slaves in todays world then ever before. Freedom has become a concept with many many interpretations. I hate talking about these things, as I always remember of the world we live in and I'll have to go with buddah's qoute here: Tis better to remain silent, and have the world assume you are a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Both you, and Vagrant are right. All systems are flawed, and only work when there is omnipresent morals and compassion. All systems have that one catch that make them tumble to the ground. There will always be someone better than everyone, and they will remain rich and powerful for as long as they live. The only thing to do is to create another philosophy that seems good, and have it corrupted by people, or pick a side and stay with it. The choices are few.
Feudalism was great in the aspect that those in power were not hidden behind curtains. You could tell nobility, king, and priests from peasants. In the others stated in this thread, many people have no clue who the ones 'really' in power are. They think the leaders of the nations, but those people no longer have the financial power they did pre-Napoleonic Era.
I also agree with your statement on slavery. It was an issue addressed when Industrialism and Capitalism first arose. Before all of that, slaves were the most profitable investment one could have. Afterward, the assembly lines became twice as profitable, and slavery as we define it today disappeared in Europe. There were many texts on how these assembly lines were *WORSE* than slavery. Many people made less money than could buy them bread, and housing. At least as a slave, there were some laws in place that guaranteed you had food in your stomach and a roof (Albeit a bad one) over your head. Same sorta applies in America or Europe. You can't support yourself with a single minimum wage job. There weren't any labor laws till the mid 1800s (In Great Britain, known as the Factory Acts I believe).
''Tis better to remain silent, and have the world assume you are a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.''If everyone on the Nexus followed this directly, there would be no need for a debate board. :confused:
This holds truth for a public figure who has something to lose, though. Anyone Remember John F Kennedy?
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Now that i notice it, how does push manage to pump out so many posts. I know hes been here awhile, but it seems his post count goes on to infinity. It's like a mysterious wonder of the world. I guess I should fancy more boards.
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It's actually a needed thing. I was always preturbed that I had to restart the game if Martin was killed in the IC. With a mod like this, it gives a different branch to the end. Nobody will do it :thumbsup:.
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Fuedalism here. For the fun of it.
Keep the peasants down, and myself up. Naturally. No way to go up, no way to go down. Keeps things simple. Good social morality due to your head falling off if you don't.
Flawed due to poor economic control, and low control over the populace. Skilled labor gets perks if he works for a Noble, however.
Socialism: Poor Incentives to learn an important job (Like being a doctor), but at least you get good services.
Communism: Poor Incentives to learn an important job, but at least you have the satsifaction of making the same as a doctor who worked his ass off for 8 years to get his degree... and your a farmer! Oh, exceptions are the leaders of the government.
Capitalism: Goodness, let's churn out the same shirt 600,000,000 times. Oh, hello there little business... DIE! So, the populace wants some of this? *turns to corporations, and asks their opinion. Turns back around* Sorry, it's to0 blah, blah, blah... not enough profit. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
any questions?
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Agreeing with Vagrant. They do it for the 'lulz', and the more people they affect the better. An Organization built on stopping them only fuels their fire. Good luck to them anyways. It's probably a bunch of Moms and Pops.
I think DeviantArt made a group that crusaded on trolls, and they got canned in a day.
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You've gotta add CommanderCrazy man, he's a must.
Voted for: AA - Too much personality per square inch.
Voted for: Slawter500 - Good idea, but you need to lurk a little moar. You missed a few big ones, and added me (A very minor player in my opinion).
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Haha, speaks my mind. I actually thought I was going to be banned for posting a Favorite MOD poll. The Moderators were really cool about it, thankfully. Kudos
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Edit: That is JFK, isn't it...?
I'm just a tiny bit offended, but I'll leave it at that.
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Banning CC, for being the new police chief, and somehow passing the psychoanalysis required to be a policeman. Unless! *GASP* YOUR SANE!?
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On a low note, hehe. More than half of the characters in Vanilla Oblivion are just too ugly to be wearing sexy clothing. Imagine Earandil, or any Orcs wearing skimpy clothing. I shudder at the thought.
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I would certainly like to know if it becomes a topic in your nation's election. Please fill us(me) in if anything happens... I have a hard time finding British news here in America.
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It does. When at work you watch the clock waiting for the freedom hour. :thumbsup:
Yes, the freedom hour seems to be the only time that 'exists' in my dimension. All other hours are not considered time, but are instead considered the 'Waiting Zone'. Cheers Push, you win the argument. :thumbsup:
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yes. if poeple would let that devine in the whole planet would transform. also not to long ago i red a nice statement from indians about prisons and how they did not need them at all. hahaha.
i agree we are just mad and there is alot of apathy regarding that. fear.
devine has no fear takes action immediatelly without knowing simply is.
if you understand it is all produced by mind. a minor force holding up whole joy at bay. hahaha. even if just by a bit.
just stupid. hahahaha. but you cannot talk with this poeple in that moment. hahahha.
it has to come of their own inner self. hahahahaha.
knowledge is the most dangerous thing ever.
hahahaha. you see.
go give up already humanity !°!!!! hahaha.
ps. also WHATS THE HUMANITY? pls stop blinding yourselfs as if you would know anything.
you the ones choosing illusion to put yourselfs in.
whod have it any other way?
is that to be found? you constantly search and what you find is nothing.
one moment the cloud it was a train and then again a fat woman. who cares. it is all writte in the skies plants trees animals stones.
dont notice then you lost in what you think to be knowledge whence in 1 sec it all can be removed.
http://forum.wellensittich.de/upload/newyearhat_troete_1_205.jpg
so halleluja that and also halleluja but i would not even know what that ment. im with stupid
and happy at last. greetings and happy easter to all.
I don't understand you too much, friend. I want to support you in this argument, but I don't even know what you are saying. Could you perhaps take a few seconds, and tell me what you are saying more clearly?
I think I translated it, but maybe not.... If this is not the point you were trying to make, hoshi, please tell me.
The Union's sole opponent seems to be Nationalism, and Religious resistance. Both of these have always been a resistance factor when it comes to combining two nations of different cultures. A European Union has it's flaws, but it seems that many countries had an expressed will to join it. Greece for instance has recently been accused of faking financial wellness in order to take a piece of the pie. Other, poorer nations in Europe may do the same eventually.
The union is a by-product of progress in Europe, and it won't be long before the union expands to include more European countries. Though the age of imperialism is clearly over due to the rise of nationalism, saying that a union of countries can not form is unacceptable. I will not rule out that the union may be unsuccessful, but for now it is growing in power and that merits success. The European Union has worked so far whether you believe it or not.
On the subject of Middle Age influence on this, take a look at the relationship between England and France. Both nations loved each other as much as any enemy would throughout history. Now they are part of a European Union. Progress anyone? It's certainly much different than the Middle Ages. It would certainly do Europe good if it took Religion out of politics, and I would certainly hope that religion is not the tool that destroys the Union. Though many will agree when i say that religion is a political tool that started when civilization sprang up, they will not agree when I say that religion needs to get the hell out of the workings of politics and return to the grasp of the people in which it was meant. I'd say the Middle Ages has plenty to do with the resistance to the EU, since it seems the main factor of resistance is Religious Nationalism.
Apologies, if I was wrong on my translation. I thought the Idea that Hoshi had made needed to be expanded to an understandable level, so that it had more influence in the argument.
I am in no way supportive of the EU, I don't give a care actually....
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This is possible, actually easily done. The problem in itself is NPC customization. You would have to break open the construction set to give him the armor you wanted specifically. Not a problem though for the CS savvy. I might do it when I have the time. Will post again if I do decide so.
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