Well put it this way....who actually own's her "former" rival, and who bought out her supplier.... Her name starts with a K, and I don't think she likes Maven that much.... Which means by the end of the Theives guild Quests and the Dark Brotherhood, you've effectively crippled her if you don't like her...Her contacts that way are dried up, she no longer has either guild's Support... Plus there are a dozen side things you do to her through side quests....There are actually very few people, in that game I don't like and Maven, who works with the Thalmor (whom I despise)...kind of rubbs the wrong way but not badly so...... I'd rather kill the ideot in Whiterun who keeps asking me if i've been to the cloud District.... >_< Like my best friend say's I'd tell him "I am the Harbinger of the Companions, Archmage of the College of Winterhold, Listener of the Dark brotherhood, and Leader of the Theives guild. So shut it you pompus...." well you get my point. Ulfric Stormcloak, I don't dislike...at least he didn't try to have me executed right at the beginning of the game....to me he's the lesser of two Weavils... Besides What do the old Grey beards say to you....that More or less you are the King of Skyrim, in all but name.... Besides to his speech he gives his minion in his castle I don't think was something he nessarilly said to inspire and so on...It sounded like Ulfric Beleaved what he said.... he may be a racist Pig, but he's way less of one then the one's everyone here should hate, the Thalmor...