AGGG, ok, well at least I know how to do it now, but damn I wish Bethesda had included more in the CK, on top of this I have to download 3ds max to make new weapons because there's barely any support for maya. But hey, thanks for the clarification, maybe now I can feel like I'm modding better then an over weight 13 year old. Why do i feel like things were so much simpler back when i was modding doom.