mods/starting oblivion

[tripsangel]

ok... unfortunatly i'm one of those people that just kept dling mods... and never realized that there could be an issue... (on my defense this game has some nice features like stacking things that are duplicates...)

edit:oh wait... BOSS makes a mod list...how nice....:end edit

 

anyways my main issue... is that i believe I'm being limited on how many mods i can have on at the same time...

i turn on them all and then run oblivion and the game crashes sometime around the bethesda logo vid....

now if i turn off some of them i can run oblivion just fine....

 

so i have no idea if its because of mods that are currently on or if oblivion really does have a limit....(which from what people have been saying..i doubt it)

 

another problem is that my khajit race... has a weird eye problem... though i don't really mind it ..its kinda funny... and spooky for people with hoods lol

 

so anyways here's my load order list in case that is the issue...highly likely isn't it?..... (doesn't show what i have on and off though...)

 

(oh and thank you!!!)

 

Oblivion.esm

CM Partners.esm

Lineage II Elves.esm

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Natural_Weather_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

EFGAddPose.esp

StandingJOJO.esp

Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp

BlackLuster.esp

BlackLuster 2SwordStyle.esp

Buster Sword R.esp

Corthian Akavir Clothing.esp

Fantasy Mod.esp

Growlfs Hot Clothes.esp

Seductress Armour.esp

SentientWeapon.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV3.esp

RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

ExnemEC_Rogue01.esp

ANBMiniMicroBikini.esp

UFF & RM Black Plate Armor.esp

IndigoArmor.esp

tona_simple_dress-armor.esp

Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

Adult_BookStore.esp

Bjornheim.esp

Castle Dragulia.esp

eyja.esp

Knights.esp

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

Dude Wheres My Horse.esp

MidasSpells.esp

JADPolymorphSpellv3.esp

BasicInstinct.esp

PetrifyandStoneSkinSpells.esp

Multiple Creature Summoning.esp

SpellSinger.esp

actors_in_charge.esp

CTAddPose_v_1.esp

CM Partners.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners NPC NE.esp

CM Partners More NPCs.esp

CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp

CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp

DASephirothCompanion.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

All_hair_and_eyes-1841.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

DemonRace.esp

Elves Of Lineage II.esp

Beautiful People.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

Half Elf Cosmo Package.esm

DIM Elves Of Lineage II Retex.esm

Lattamerv3.esm

ALE_Silkrobe_S.esp

Buster-sword.esp

RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Easy.esp

KT_DetectHostility.esp

fwBoethiaCustomRaceFix.esp

the_core_apocalypse.esp

organics.esp

butterfly.esp

ALE_dbarmor.esp

rune.esp

ALE_lskirt.esp

tsuguri_complete.esp

FF7 Weapons.esp

RD-HeavensWrath-v1-1-Realistic.esp

zacksword.esp

ALE_bikini.esp

Solace.esp

TheFatherSword.esp

KDWitchesFrock.esp

Master_Sword.esp

10_Dresses_for_Eshmes_body.esp

personality_idles2.esp

AlexMeteorShower.esp

Tetsusaiga.esp

UFF_ALE_fc.esp

orientalv1_3.esp

Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV3.esp

zSexySanta4Eshme.esp

MasterSwordDX.esp

M-Sword.esp

long_akaviri_nodati.esp

CM Partners Special NPCs.esp

Marine Caverns.esp

Lilmothiit.esp

Lilmothiit-CE.esp

LJD_HumanMIKA.esp

Final Fantasy Magic.esp

The reversed blade sword black.esp

Lyn-StoriesFromTheSeaMod.esp

Robed Panty.esp

Akaviri Imports.esp

spellsxx.esp

spellsx.esp

FF10 Tidus Longsword.esp

bondage_sex.esp

FF8 Gunblade.esp

FinalFantasy10BrotherhoodswordNEW.esp

HGEC_Rogue01.esp

shinyEmotions.esp

SaberCloth.esp

ArkaySword.esp

Police Suits.esp

TSMD.esp

Eroblivion.esp

CTAddPose_ bondage_sex.esp

Red Mystic Mage.esp

Advent Children Tsurugi.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean 2Hand Fur Scabbard.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean 2Hand Leather Scabbard.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean 2Hand No Scabbard.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean Fur Scabbard.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean Leather Scabbard.esp

Conan Swords - Atlantean No Scabbard.esp

Skeuomorph_LBD.esp

UFF Lady Shadow.esp

SkeuomorphT3.esp

Lords Lightsabers.esp

Cloaks.esp

Bodysuit for Exnem.esp

Lera's ValantineOutfit.esp

Naughty_Joana_01.esp

Ancient Silver Armor_ru.esp

pizz_FFXI.esp

The Sexy BeastV1.2.esp

LucyBabeCombine.esp

Slof's Sexy Anims.esp

Adonnays Elfische Waffen.esp

Sword-of-power.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

Rogue Mage & Scoundrel.esp

Rinzei_SwordofUnknownOrigin.esp

MotherSword.esp

LongTop.esp

nymph.esp

DAClair.esp

Agicis.esp

CTAddPose_osr1.esp

Xia_Nhary_TwilightAssassin.HGEC1.1Normal.esp

ANBValsharessArmors.esp

77_Umpa_Animation.esp

CTAddPose_osr2.esp

RingRobeHGEC.esp

HGEC_BodyGlove.esp

TeachSpell.esp

ScaryCastle.esp

CTAddPose_osr3.esp

OverFlow.esp

Drow_rd.esp

tona_muffler.esp

DemonRace_FlyingAndVapor.esp

DemonRace_FlyingAndFlame.esp

DemonRace_Flame.esp

DemonRace_Flying.esp

Fall_Protection_Easy.esp

Atropa.esp

EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp

HGECUndiesHCup.esp

wargoddess_ru.esp

UFF Lady Jasmine.esp

sweetclothes.esp

DM-Lingerie.esp

DM-Elite Witch.esp

DemonRace_Vapor.esp

ANBPowerSword.esp

QQuix - Divine Elegance Showroom.esp

Deceiver's Armour.esp

HENTAI_EVE.esp

Sexlivion-NoBP2ch.esp

Sexlivion-ForBP2ch.esp

PepperJoes.esp

SchwarzeKatzeArmor.esp

SexyKunoichi.esp

AT2 Dress Armor Set.esp

ANBDrapeTop.esp

ElyndasShortSack.esp

hentai_NightPrincess_ru.esp

Diano.esp

HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp

Female Outfits by Koutetsu.esp

EY_Vampirehunter.esp

DianoArmor2.esp

JG Elven.esp

KnightlyArmory.esp

AniKeyblade.esp

Bar Maid.esp

RobertM UFF Moonwell and Mystic Night Elf.esp

kagrenac.esp

HaloStuff.esp

UFF Lady Camellia.esp

Shaman Clothing.esp

Hentai_Compilation.esp

Dark_Mistress.esp

LKF_EY_Vampirehunter.esp

DFSLLatexDream.esp

Energy - Beautiful Elves.esp

bustersword.esp

Sunderworld BETA.esp

Lattamer.esp

DJHGreatsword.esp

Gloria Armor.esp

AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp

SnowySignatureOutfit.esp

Sinbloods_Nightweave_HGEC.esp

CapsAdmin.esp

NPR Knight Armor.esp

Stylish Jump.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

AsianElves.esp

SWalk.esp

GUTSIndigoArmor.esp

ColourWheel_Uniforms_v1.5.esp

Colourwheels_arcane_university_beta.esp

SuperMegaSword.esp

Blackhand Courtesan.esp

Slaveknight armor.esp

Marine Bunny.esp

CM ElizabethColourWheel.esp

Arkay's Valour.esp

ColourWheels_Sexy_casual_wear.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Sweetclothes.esp

MHSNfuru.esp

inuyasha mod.esp

MHSNKirin.esp

Gianna.esp

DFSLoutfits.esp

Colourwheels_sexy_school_uniforms.esp

tona_whitesquall-armor_ver2.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Shop Uniforms.esp

ColourWheels Sexy Servant Uniform.esp

Claymore equipment ver.1.0.esp

RGMsCheerleader.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Regal Uniforms.esp

Sexlivion_0.4a_Full_English_v1.esp

ElvenPrincess.esp

ElvenFantasy.esp

ACB_Yamigarasu.esp

DarkRoseSet.esp

BombshellRace.esp

MHE v2 Tail.esp

MHE v2.esp

mbass_AssortedOutfits.esp

Hentai_Apple.esp

Growlfs_Hot_Clothes_And_Armor_4,0_Xmas_Edition-8400.esp

Levelled_Resurrection_Spell-8428.esp

Akaviri_Imports_Fixed_esp-4277.esp

Rothward.esp

Half Elf.esp

CuteElf11.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

FF7 Swords 01 complete tsurugi.esp

FF7 Swords 02 core apocalypse.esp

FF7 Swords 03 blade ogre nix.esp

FF7 Swords 04 side rune.esp

FF7 Swords 05 back butterfly.esp

SpellOfTime.esp

Kitana.esp

IvyArmor_Full.esp

1SB_ValsharessArmors.esp

IvyArmor_Arena_Hcup.esp

IvyArmor_Arena.esp

JannetEveningDress.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Light Armor.esp

Assassins Creed - Altair's Gear - Heavy Armor.esp

Lanell's Xmas dresses.esp

HentaiChinaDress.esp

mbass_OblivionMagazine_Jan_2009.esp

HentaiDarkLilith.esp

AT2 02-Shiki Armor Set.esp

AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp

Western Armor.esp

Colourwheels_Sexy_Ts.esp

CleanQuit.esp

DMCDanteClothes.esp

Blo.esp

The Contented Prisoner V 2.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Tennis uniforms.esp

Salutrian Elves.esp

DFSLChina.esp

Hentai_CerenityArmor.esp

HGEC_Female_Ninja_Armor.esp

Colourwheels Sexy minisuka Uniforms.esp

Black Serenity.esp

Hentai_CaskerArmor.esp

HentaiNewSweetClothes.esp

Hentai_Kureha.esp

BloodThorn Blades.esp

Star a liberty_1 MA.esp

Northrend.esp

Tainted.esp

AAbuiesdaqun.esp

MTCThievesGrotto.esp

SPB Wrapping Armors.esp

irohaclothes.esp

Colourwheels Sexy Dance Club.esp

DHuntress.esp

DawnWraith.esp

LittleCarmine.esp

BWisteria.esp

crazy_shadow-cats.esp

Capcom charactor.esp

adelina.esp

tda_Armoury Beta v1_2.esp

SanoCFT.esp

SPB Belt Girl.esp

SPB Double Melons.esp

SPB Light Armors.esp

SPB Seitokai Armors.esp

SPB Tatakau Maid San.esp

Bella Vista.esp

mECB_ShadowCat.esp

SPB Glass Girls.esp

SPB GW Armors.esp

SPB Mercenary Armors.esp

SPB Mercenary Armors - Sanguine.esp

SPB Boots Set.esp

SPB Witch Outfit.esp

SPB Gun Girl.esp

SPB Assassin Dolls.esp

Duke Patricks The Lady said NO.esp

ANBWearableEars.esp

BleachOverhaul.esp

[dezdimona]

max is suggested at 255,but more is possible...follow the guide!

 

General Load-Order Guidelines

Here are the guidelines that I adhere to, personally.

 

~ Unofficial Oblivon Patch should always be first on the list. The fixes are great, but most aren't essential, so if a mod overwrites them its not a big deal, and the fixes have the potential for screwing up other mods if loaded later.

 

~ Offical Content (DLC's) should be loaded last, until you complete all quests associated with them (that includes buying all furniture for the houses and whatnot). Once they're complete, they can be safely moved up in the list. This is especially important for Knights of the Nine, which will have some fairly major problems unless loaded last (unless you get the UOP for KotN)

 

~ Major overhaul mods (OOO, Frans, MMM) should be loaded near the end. That gives you the most complete experience with any of those particular mods. It also lets you carefully choose which other mods to load afterwards... only move mods that you know will conflict and that you want the changes from. For example, I have Improved Soul Gems below OOO because I know that OOO changes the icons of some of the SG's, and ISG needs to be below to show through.

 

Some people will recommend putting larger mods first, but personally I disagree. There are a number of mods out there that make minor tweaks, and loading after a large mod will end up completely overwriting a chunk from one of the bigger mods because of the way conflicts work in Oblivion (even one minor change will take precedence over the entire record... for example, simply tweaking the speed of a weapon can cause every stat of that weapon to be retained to vanilla levels if loaded later).

 

So basically, it stacks up like this...

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Minor Mods / DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mod/Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

 

 

 

Expanded Load-Order Guidelines

by dev_akm

 

I would extend this to include:

 

Oblivion.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch

<Weather/Environment/Sound Mods>

<Minor Mods/New Items/Houses/DLC's (Post-Completion)>

<Major Overhaul Mods>

<Mods that specifically conflict with overhauls and need to take precedence>

<DLC's (Pre-Completion)>

<Quests>

<Compatibility Patches/UOMP/Merged Leveled Lists>

 

And a special-case warning for Knights.esp (Knights of the Nine) -- you may not be able to move it earlier than some other mods (some people have had problems after moving it before OOO, for example).

 

That's basically the structure I use and I have 140+ mods working well together.

 

Another way of describing this (posted by DMan77):

....

Oblivion

unoffical patch

Deeper realism mods that add sights and sounds

added content like weapons/items

gameplay changes, like 'must eat and sleep'

The OOO type

the 'new begining' type mod..

................................................................................

................

[bben46]

The maximum allowed mods is 255. This is hard wired into the game and cannot be changed. However, you can combine mods. That is take a group of smaller mods and make one larger one - that will only count as 1 in your list.

 

The easiest way is through Wrye Bash. A utility program that does much more than allow merging mods. It is not a mod and does not install like a mod so be sure to read the instructions and install BOTH the Wrye Bash and Python parts.

 

Available on Tesnexus, here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368

 

Or

Available from the author's site, here: http://wrye.ufrealms.net/Wrye%20Bash.html

 

Wrye's site has a lot more info about his work.

[tripsangel]

so would it be ok to batch weapon and clothing mods? together in there own batchs..?

one for all clothes, one for all weapons...

 

my other question is ....whats considered a major overhaul mod?... buildings?, areas? or is it more like... conversion mods?

[bben46]

Major overhaul mods are things like Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul (OOO) and Martigen's Monster Mod (MMM) these change a lot of various things in the game as opposed to 'simple' mods that change only one thing or a group of similar things, such as clothing or weapons.

[Shadowcran]

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=8665

 

This is the Gecko. You can merge esps together. For a simpler guide to doing this go to :

http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.ph...=898653&hl=

 

Also, take Bben's advice and learn the Wrye Bash. It's the swiss army knife of modding and does a ton of things.

 

You might want to take his overhaul advice as well. He's 100% right. There's a ton of content in them. The ultimate goal being a complete FCOM Convergence setup. Here's a guide to that:

 

 

http://fivefries.googlepages.com/fcominstallationguide

[tripsangel]

as per bb46's advice i did get wyre bash.... the problem being that it could only merge like 7 of the mods that i have.... (and i don't even know how to merge those)

but i must say it is alot more helpful than obmm

 

as for these overhaul mods... maybe i'll try them after i've beaten vanilla (modded) oblivion to death..... before i try oblivion overhauled OOO or MMM...

 

i'm gonna check out this gecko program.. thank you shadowcran.... i most likely would not have found it lol

 

ummm since my problems seem solved thanks to that merging program... (until later when i find out, when i have no idea what i'm doing and am going through the faqs like crazy)

 

does anybody know of a simple mod that allows more than one summon of a particular creature... like 2 skeletons?...

 

i think i found one in tesnexus but it has several other features it changes aswell.... that i'd like to remain (summoned time)

i also found one that allows more than one summon type (ie, one scamp one skeleton) which is rather helpful ...i could just use that if one doesn't exist...

 

thank you! for helping me!