random ctds

[jellyhead]

Hi, I've been getting ctds while playing Skyrim for a little while now, I tried handling it myself but it's not helped any. It's actually been a month or so since I played, so my memory on the details is not the best sorry.

 

I downloaded a bunch of animation mods in March and that is when the ctds started, I removed most of them until the crashes stopped and thought things had been solved. I started installing mods and eventually the ctds started up again. I don't think it was just animation mods that were causing ctds the second time round, I also tried to make sure I didn't use any animation mods that required esps. There's a possibility there are some files in the meshes folder left over, could these cause the ctds?

 

I'll try and list the times/places I got/get crashes:

• One ctd took place when I equiped some armor on my character
• One ctd I was just on horseback riding somewhere and it randomly ctd
• I get ctds sometimes just as the game is about to load, right after the loading screen goes away
• entering/leaving buildings, I had this happen in breezehome/whiterun and some inn (can't remember where sorry!)
• another things ive noticed is that when im trying out different skin mods (I'll be coming in and out of Skyrim trying different mods) that installing a different one causes a ctd when it loads, I can load the game the second time I try. These are mods that come with esps btw, not like navetsea's.

 

These are BOSS recognised plugins:

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
ApachiiHair.esm Active
AzarHair.esm Active
CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm Active
Note: Obsolete. Update to the latest version.
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Active
Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
NPC_Overhaul_V2_.esp Active
RevampedExteriorFog.esp Active
Blackout_Skyrim.esp Active
Note: This is an ENB mod. Be sure you have the correct ENB setup installed.
CLARALUX - LightAdjuster - Vanilla Bright Increased Radius.esp Active
Note: Use only one LightAdjuster.
Note: Obsolete. Update to latest version.
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Skyrim.esp Active
Note: Use Remove Interior Fog V2 - Hearthfire.esp in addition to include Hearthfires locations.
Remove Interior Fog V2 - Hearthfire.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - The Goddess ENB.esp Active
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
lt_better_horses_uninstaller.esp Active
Pupetteer Master.esp Active
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
SkyUI.esp Active
Aragorns combat tunic.esp Active
AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp Active
backpackfrankdema.esp Active
Cloaks.esp Active
1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
combinationVanillaOutfit.esp Active
GDRangerArmor.esp Active
GDAttire.esp Active
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HoodsAndCirclets.esp Active
MashupUNP.esp Active
nordicrangerarmor.esp Active
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active
Standard-15Percent.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
Note: Use only one optional leveled list. (High, Medium, Standard or Uber)
theRoadstrokersRogueSorceress.esp Active
theRoadstrokersAlvinHewOutfitSet.esp Active
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp Active
AnorithsShack.esp Active
Beautiful Whiterun.esp Active
DusksCabin.esp Active
Everspring Grotto.esp
RealisticWhiterun.esp Active
Riften Small.esp Active
RiverSideShack.esp Active
SBT Smal1.esp Active
Headtracking.esp Active
NMFWLM_vanilla.esp Active
CampingKitNorthernRanger.esp Active
Note: Use only one CampingKitNorthernRanger
Realistic Running Speed.esp Active
FNISspells.esp Active
ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp Active
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
ActionPoser.esp Active
PinupsMen.esp Active
Pinups5.esp Active
Pinups4.esp Active
Pinups3.esp Active
Pinups.esp Active
Pinups2.esp Active
LovelyHairstylesLITE.esp Active
MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp Active
MoreEyebrows.esp Active
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp Active
XCES.esp Active
Incompatible with: ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
Brothers.esp Active
HousecarlWhiterun.esp
BeansElves.esp Active
beanshousecarlsfix.esp Active
Female Follower Fix.esp
Female Orc Walk Only.esp Active
Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.esp
Facelight.esp Active
LiFE.esp
Requires: CBBE female body or DIMONIZED UNP female body.
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active
Incompatible with: XCES.esp
WATER.esp Active
WATER Plants.esp Active

 

 

These are the ones not recognised:

 

DovahkiinsRespite.esp Active
Starter tent.esp Active
zzDreadlocks.esp Active

 

 

I previously went through the boss log and dealt with all the errors I could find. I know I'm using both EEO and XCES, I had used these two together for a while and I was happy using the scars of the XCES for the non elf races and letting the EEO file override any changes for the elves. I posted on the mod pages to ask whether the compatibility issue was just in terms of one overwriting the changes of another, or if using the two together could cause ctds as well. I didn't get any reply though.

 

My PC uses an Intel i7 2.67 processor, has 12 gigs of RAM and uses an ATI Radeon 5800 series (I think its a 5870, I've not been able to find out). The computer is 4 years old ish.

 

Please let me know if i need to provide any more information, and thanks for any help that can be offered!

Edited June 4, 2013 by jellyhead

[dave1029]

If they are truly random then they are caused by unclean mods with dirty edits (needs tes5edit cleaning) or you are reaching your ram limit. I notice you have quite a few city mods (whiterun) and environmental mods. Those (while great mods) are incredibly unstable. I would suggest keeping SFO and W.A.T.E.R, but getting rid of your city mods. If you absolutely must have a better Whiterun, I would highly suggest pines of whiterun as it only adds, not removes.

[jellyhead]

Thanks Dave, ill remove beautiful whiterun and see if that helps. Are there any general strategies for trying to figure out ctds? Any other things I can do?

 

Just one more thing, I'm not sure how it works in Skyrim, but could the Whiterun mod cause crashes even when I'm not in Whiterun? I've experienced ctds a lot in other areas.

Edited June 4, 2013 by jellyhead

[dave1029]

If you want to learn more about it I would suggest reading the "only you can prevent forest files" thread, as it lists in detail ctd's, why they occur, and how you can prevent them. And yes, just because the changes are in whiterun does not mean crashes only occur in whiterun due to that mod.

[jellyhead]

I've just had a quick glimpse and I can already identify a few mods I might disable... I think game memory limit might be my problem? I only have a 1Gb graphics card and quite a lot of textures mods installed.

I have a question about mod conflicts if you're able to help? I've got two mods installed that BOSS says conflict wiht each other- Ethereal Elven Overhaul and XCES (scarface). The thread you linked mentioned conflicts to do with editing world objects, but these mods (as far as I'm aware!) just effect the chargen, could the conflict between these two cause ctds?