Gaming Beast

[vincenexus]

I Am Planning A Build I Want Some Input
The System Is For Gaming Obviously Mostly Arma 2, Day Z Mod, Arma 3, Day Z Standalone, BF3, Skyrim, Witcher Games,
· Will It Max The Games Mentioned Above

· Can I Save Money Without Sacrificing Power/Performance
· Are There Any Bottlenecks or Overpowered Parts
· Can I Overclock The CPU To 4Ghz

· Is The MoBo And RAM Going To Work Together?
· I will only buy from PCCaseGear.com so please only suggest items from that site. I have dealt with their warranty department and customer service/Sales and they always go above and beyond

 

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit with SP1 OEM = $99
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Case = $265

Disk Drive: Pioneer DVR-220LBKS Black 24x DVDRW OEM = $25

MoBo: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Motherboard = $199 im a sucker for aesthetics black red and gold

Sound Card: ASUS Xonar Essence STX = $169

CPU: Intel Core i5 4670K = $269 Decided Against the i7 too expensive just for hyperthreadding plus i only need 4Ghz OC

Cooler: Xigmatek Aegir CPU Cooler = $59

GFX: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked ACX 2GB = $499

Ram:Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C8R 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 = $99

HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB 7200RPM = $95

SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB SSD Retail Box = $249

PSU: Corsair AX760 Platinum Power Supply = $219

Total: $2339 This Includes Postage And Parcel Protection

 

I Have Pre Bought Peripherals

Keyboard Gigabyte Osmium

Mouse Rat 9

Screen Viewsonic VX2460H-LED 1080p,2ms

Headphones Audio Technica ATH-M50

Edited June 19, 2013 by vincenexus

[Erik005]

The ram is overkill, you won't notice the difference between this and a 1600mhz kit half the price.

 

You don't need a fan controller with this case, it has one built in.

 

The case is a personal choice, I don't like it but large fans are quiet.

 

The ssd has a bit of a bad reputation though, you might want to consider an other one

 

You might want to consider a build with the new socket 1150 though.

 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1491&products_id=23627

 

 

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1490&products_id=23495

 

The gtx 770 is also out, these are faster than the 7970.

Edited June 14, 2013 by Erik005

[Phalanx108]

 

The ssd has a bit of a bad reputation though, you might want to consider an other one

You might want to consider a build with the new socket 1150 though.

The gtx 770 is also out, these are faster than the 7970.

 

 

1150 is a nice socket, but I'd wait until they've been out a little bit before going to buy one. Prices are always more expensive as soon as they come out.

 

As for the SSD, consider another one. The Neutron GTX is a nice choice.

 

770 is also a great card for the price. Easily rivals a 680 with a nice OC on it.

Edited June 15, 2013 by Phalanx108

[Erik005]

The socket 1150 kit would be a little more expensive but they have several advantages

 

They almost all have great audio-chips, this might be the generation that kills dedicated sound-cards.

 

More sata 6 ports, intel internet chips, msata connectors for wifi and ssd's

[vincenexus]

thanks for the help so far i agree the ram is overkill will look into it more thanks

Hows this RAM http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=186_218_1125&products_id=18238

 

i did not realize corsair was bad for ssd i have heard samsung is good though can someone please confirm/deny

hows this SSDhttp://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=22033

 

i have removed the fan controller

 

i was looking at the idea of 1150 socket system but decided against it because the ivy bridge is well known and they are at there peak the haswell i new and has a while to come to fruition if i am wrong on this one can you please explain more

 

i could change the build to 1150 for only $40 more

MoBo ASRock Z87http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23627 looks real good thanks for the link

CPU Intel Core i5 4670khttp://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23495

 

can someone please explain how a 770 2gb is better than a 7970 3gb???

770 list http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=193_1486&vk_sort=4

the 770 im looking atEVGA GeForce GTX 770 Superclocked ACX 2GB

the 7970 i have chosen http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21322

Edited June 15, 2013 by vincenexus

[Erik005]

The samsung ssd is good

 

The amount of vram has noting to do with how fast a graphics chip is.

 

Read this review.

 

http://us.hardware.info/reviews/4440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review-incl-3-way-sli-and-frametimes

Edited June 15, 2013 by Erik005

[vincenexus]

because i have saved money by loosing the overpriced ram the unnecessary fan controller and getting a cheaper but better ssd

i now have some more breathing space for the gfx card hows this one

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1486&products_id=23605

btw thanks for your help so far erik

[FMod]

OS: Get Home Premium. There's no difference that you might notice, and you save a whole $90. For no loss.

 

Video card: They're actually ~equally fast, 770 is a rebranded tweaked 680, but why not.

 

CPU+mobo: You might as well go for the newer i5-4670K and a LGA1150 mobo.

Or, 4770 without the "K" (doesn't overclock well anyway, don't need the K)

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_346_1490&products_id=23496

Asrock motherboard:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_1491&products_id=23624

 

PSU: Thermaltake is mediocre on quality. "Discontinued" also should have been a red flag. Corsair AX760 is way better. By enough that you may want to pay for shipping from elsewhere. PSU seem to be overpriced at your retailer.

AX760 on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139042

I can't even pick at your store, they're all even more overpriced. Are there any alternatives? Shipping from US?

 

HDD: Avoid Seagate, lousy quality. Newegg has a good deal on Hitachi 7K4000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145620

Out of what you have, maybe this: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=210_344&products_id=22283

 

SSD: The 840 is a TLC part. That's reduced write longevity, not perfect for the system drive. Also, 120GB is just too little.

Get Crucial M500 240GB or Samsung 840 Pro. I recommend the former, because it's a whole 20% cheaper for just 4% less performance than 840 Pro, but your store doesn't seem to have it, only the 120GB version.

 

CPU cooler: No reason to overpay for a medium-performance "water in a box".

Your store doesn't have any of the best air supercoolers. I guess this is OK:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23&products_id=22377

 

Case: It's OK if you like the looks. But your store seems to stock Xigmateks... and this is the case to get: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_1278&products_id=18284

[kalikka]

If you have Xeon 1230v3 available in your country, I recommend it with a good H87 mobo.

Xeon 1230v3 is the same as i7-4770 without the iGPU, but costs the same as i5-4670k. And who needs iGPU when you have GTX770/HD7970?

 

But it seems you are going OC so i5-4670k it is.

To drop price, I recommend taking air-cooler because pre-made watercoolers arent that great (I have 2 of them with push/pull).

The PSU is a bit overkill. I have high-quality 750W PSU (Super flower golden green pro 750w) that Im going to use for 2x HD7950 xfire... So 550w (or less) would be enough for single GPU systems.

Also the case seems a bit overkill, Define R4 is a very nice case. I have had the opportunity to test Define R3 and I own Bitfenix Shinobi and Rosewill Blackhawk. The Shinobi is heavily modded (custom side-fan, lots of paint, etc)

Edited June 16, 2013 by kalikka

[FMod]

 

But it seems you are going OC so i5-4670k it is.

Not really practical this generation. Haswell doesn't overclock well - most users will top out at 4.2 GHz for full load. With "K" your mult is unlocked, but without "K" you still get +4 free bins.

 

i7-4770's bins are 34 normal, and turbo is 37/38/39/39 for 4/3/2/1 cores respectively. With +4 bins, it becomes 41/42/43/43. With 102.5 MHz base clock, that's 4.2 GHz on all cores and 4.4 on 1 core.

 

And you might not even want to go that high, just 4.0 quad and 4.2 dual core for heat reasons is reasonable for Haswell. As such, even a non-K part can clock higher than the average user needs to clock it. You only need the "K" if you're trying to post records, have a cooling setup to do it, and don't care about noise or 24/7 operation.

 

And not just that - non-K parts, Xeons included, have some extra features: TSX, Vt-d and V-pro.

Do you want them? Well, many users can live without, but Vt-d will help you run better and faster virtualization. If you say want a virtual Windows XP on your machine, for things that glitch on 7 or 8, you want Vt-d. TSX is a performance enhancing technology for multi-threading; it's new and you probably won't find software that supports it this year, but as soon as 2014 it might get implementations, at least in the open-source community.

 

So i7-4770 is the part to get this generation. Or a Xeon 1240v3, it can save you a few bucks, but it does clock a bit less. With Haswells it's only a very small loss, though. But if buying everything in 1 place, might go with 4770 for convenience' sake.

 

 

 

can someone please explain how a 770 2gb is better than a 7970 3gb???

Actually, it's about as fast as 7970 GHz edition. But with lower power draw and possibly fewer driver concerns. OTOH, for some cases, 7970's extra VRAM and bus width may be helpful. 7970 is cheaper at your retailer, which is a factor too. I can't recommend one way or the other.

 

If you do get a 770, take this: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1486&products_id=23604

EVGA has more hat than cattle. There's no reason not to get one, just no reason to get one either. Palit may not have much to its name, but it's the same for $50 less, and all last-gen reference PCB are made in one place anyway.

 

Out of Radeons, these two are good:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1309&products_id=19269

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1309&products_id=19553

Gigabyte is clearly better bang for the buck. Asus will be somewhat quieter when overclocked and OC a bit better; but it's expensive (and 770 can be as quiet or quieter for less). Depends mostly on how much concern the noise is.