junin Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I just extracted these models and had a look....I dont get how people can call them a total rip off...it certainly takes effort and time to adjust a model from one game to another.. Seeing as that is really beyond me, i'm anticipating this mod very much junin! Just as i eagerly await Skree's works as well...so Good Luck =D Oh and btw do you intend on making a nanosuit without a parachute? LOL it’s not a parachute. It’s a backpack. I just liked the look of the chute harness, so I used it for the backpack. And it’s not part of the armor. It is equipment that you can get near where you find the armor. You can take it or leave it. It’s very useful though. It allows you to carry more stuff. If you click on the pic above you can see the side pouches they will also allow you to carry extra items, (not as much as the backpack of course) but they’re also very handy and stylish IMO. You can equip the backpack or the side pouches or both or none. It’s up to you really. By the way thank you for the nice comments I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00teh Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Indeed! I dont like backpacks much, but the pouches are a very nice touch, i thought they were just there for looks lol.. Hope to see a release date soon, btw do you know where you're going to release it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junin Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Indeed! I dont like backpacks much, but the pouches are a very nice touch, i thought they were just there for looks lol.. Hope to see a release date soon, btw do you know where you're going to release it to? I’m not sure exactly where I’ll be uploading it yet. I was planning on uploading it here, and then I read a bunch of comments about this website and their policy concerning mods that have content from other games. I’m not sure how it works or what the policy restrictions are. I keep seeing mods here with lightsabers and pulse riffles, and music from other games, music from artist who I’m sure didn’t give permission to have their IPs used in these mods, so I’m a bit confused about the whole thing. But I like this website and I want to avoid any problems so what I’m probably going to do is upload a video trailer for the mod here and on you tube with the links to the actual mod. I noticed that there were at least 3 other mods on here that attempted to recreate the Nano armor in some way. Mostly they just give you attributes similar to the nanosuit- Max armor, Max speed… and truth be told I was very impressed with them. I was thinking of contacting the authors and giving them my models of the nanosuit to use in their mods, but I had to reconsider because I didn’t want to cause any problems for them or this website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutlander Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I was planning on uploading it here, and then I read a bunch of comments about this website and their policy concerning mods that have content from other games. I’m not sure how it works or what the policy restrictions are. I keep seeing mods here with lightsabers and pulse riffles, and music from other games, music from artist who I’m sure didn’t give permission to have their IPs used in these mods, so I’m a bit confused about the whole thing.I'll explain it for you. 1. If you extract an asset from another game (a model, music, sound etc) and import it into Fallout 3 that would be considered against the rules. 2. If you remake an asset from scratch (ie building it yourself) it is considered fine. For example if you were to extract a light saber from one of the Star Wars games and import it into Fallout 3 you would be breaking the rules by uploading it here, but on the other hand if you were to make a light saber model yourself from scratch and imported that into Fallout 3 you would be within the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00teh Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well from what i understand...the weapons; M41a and Lightsabers, the models were made from scratch and hence allowed... But i dont understand the whole issue of why companies feel the need to take such drastic measures. Seeing as you modders have no intent to to profit at all from the models, but thats what i've heard back when people ported meshes/textures to Oblivion from other games, it just wasn't allowed. So basically i believe you can't upload it here, simply if you used the original model without the express permission from their original creators, in this case Crytek. Still don't let it discourage you! Many of us own Crysis and would definitely do what you have been doing if we simply had the skill to! Even if you can't upload it here, i'm sure the creators of the other nanosuits would love to have their effects stuck on your model after you're done, wouldn't hurt to contact them about it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutlander Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Well from what i understand...the weapons; M41a and Lightsabers, the models were made from scratch and hence allowed... But i dont understand the whole issue of why companies feel the need to take such drastic measures. Seeing as you modders have no intent to to profit at all from the models, but thats what i've heard back when people ported meshes/textures to Oblivion from other games, it just wasn't allowed.It's because you are removing the requirement to purchase their game to have access to their assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junin Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 “For example if you were to extract a light saber from one of the Star Wars games and import it into Fallout 3 you would be breaking the rules by uploading it here, but on the other hand if you were to make a light saber model yourself from scratch and imported that into Fallout 3 you would be within the ruled.” Yeah I’ve heard that before, but even if you recreate the models from scratch. It still doesn’t change the fact that a light saber is the intellectual property of Lucas Arts. I can think of 2 mods off the top of my head that use music from well known artist that I’m pretty sure didn’t give permission to use their stuff. Though I downloaded both mods from a different website, I wouldn’t be surprised if either 1 or even both are also here on this website. And let’s say that you made your model from scratch if it’s very well made some one bound to accuse you of ripping it off. And how would you go about proving that they’re your models and who do you prove it to. I think what it boils down to is how much attention the mod attracts and who objects to it. Let’s say for the sake of argument that these are my models made from scratch and I was somehow able to prove that, and I was allowed to upload them here. If the mod got enough attention a representative of EA or Crytek could ask the website to take it down. They would have every right to because the Nanosuit and its design are the IP of Crytek. I don’t even want to get into the legality of the whole thing. “Even if you can't upload it here, i'm sure the creators of the other nanosuits would love to have their effects stuck on your model after you're done, wouldn't hurt to contact them about it anyway.” True, but if the added my Nano armor to their mod, they could potentially have to remove their mods from this site. That’s what I want to avoid. So what I’m going to do is release two versions of the mod a full version which includes a quest and my own scripts for the armor effects along with weapons and other stuff. And another with just the models which people can use as replacer for the mod of their choice. I’ll post links in the readme for the other mods that people can use if they prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOutlander Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 “For example if you were to extract a light saber from one of the Star Wars games and import it into Fallout 3 you would be breaking the rules by uploading it here, but on the other hand if you were to make a light saber model yourself from scratch and imported that into Fallout 3 you would be within the ruled.” Yeah I’ve heard that before, but even if you recreate the models from scratch. It still doesn’t change the fact that a light saber is the intellectual property of Lucas Arts. I can think of 2 mods off the top of my head that use music from well known artist that I’m pretty sure didn’t give permission to use their stuff. Though I downloaded both mods from a different website, I wouldn’t be surprised if either 1 or even both are also here on this website. And let’s say that you made your model from scratch if it’s very well made some one bound to accuse you of ripping it off. And how would you go about proving that they’re your models and who do you prove it to. I think what it boils down to is how much attention the mod attracts and who objects to it. Let’s say for the sake of argument that these are my models made from scratch and I was somehow able to prove that, and I was allowed to upload them here. If the mod got enough attention a representative of EA or Crytek could ask the website to take it down. They would have every right to because the Nanosuit and its design are the IP of Crytek. I don’t even want to get into the legality of the whole thing. “Even if you can't upload it here, i'm sure the creators of the other nanosuits would love to have their effects stuck on your model after you're done, wouldn't hurt to contact them about it anyway.” True, but if the added my Nano armor to their mod, they could potentially have to remove their mods from this site. That’s what I want to avoid. So what I’m going to do is release two versions of the mod a full version which includes a quest and my own scripts for the armor effects along with weapons and other stuff. And another with just the models which people can use as replacer for the mod of their choice. I’ll post links in the readme for the other mods that people can use if they prefer.Give one of the moderators a PM on the subject and ask (buddah would be a good bet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w00teh Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Any updates junin? Still eargly anticipating this mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The SH0CKER Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Its quite simple. Ideas cannot be copyrighted ( thats why all those public-made lightsabers arent illegal ) but actual models, textures etc which took money and time to produce are copyrighted ( thats why ripping the nano suit out of crysis and rigging it for fallout 3 is illegal ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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